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Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Crypto is an option here. Seems like a pretty good fit for what the sex workers need.

Mind explaining why you think this? It seems like a public database isn't a good use case for something so stigmatized.

They could use one of the private ones.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Among Swedish feminists and the left, sex work is completely unacceptable and prostitution is pretty much equated with rape. Is this not true for other countries?

In the far left in the States it's considered work, and something that should be well regulated and safe.

The center left/centrist (Democrats) position is more split. Some folks think it's a bodily autonomy issue and others think it's degrading.

Feminist opinion is likewise split. But most feminists I know tend to fall in the, "if it's consensual, it should be protected and regulated work. You shouldn't fear going to jail because you had sex."

So, it's a mix of opinions out here.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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The only thing special about sex workers in this situation is the politicized nature of their work. The industry they work in, and they way they conduct their business, simply doesn’t align very well with the risk management strategies of conventional financial institutions. Any form of non-conventional work is going to run into exactly the same problems. I know this because the same thing happens to me. Nearly all m…

This is a great theory, and I am inclined to agree, but how does it explain large, stable adult websites encountering such roadblocks?

The risk factors are the same. The only thing that scales with the size of the operation is the dollar value of the risk.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Crypto is an option here. Seems like a pretty good fit for what the sex workers need.

Crypto is not a good option for anything, as it’s lack of irl uses other than Ponzi schemes make clear.

It’s really good for crime.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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> We also know that the vast majority of people who work in the "industry" are either coerced by others or forced into it by life circumstances. Most people are forced into work by life circumstances. That's how society operates: work or starve. Sex trafficking is a genuine issue, but it's not at all the majority of the industry. I don't see what makes consensual sex work uniquely coercive or evil when compared to ot…

> That's how society operates: work or starve It is more like how biology operates.

What on earth does that mean? That it's biologically impossible to give other people food?

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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> We also know that the vast majority of people who work in the "industry" are either coerced by others or forced into it by life circumstances. Most people are forced into work by life circumstances. That's how society operates: work or starve. Sex trafficking is a genuine issue, but it's not at all the majority of the industry. I don't see what makes consensual sex work uniquely coercive or evil when compared to ot…

And civilized society routinely sets a floor for that “work or starve” dynamic, ensuring that there isn’t a race to the bottom and desperate people aren’t forced to take certain kinds of jobs. That’s because we understand that the legality of certain kinds of jobs creates social pressure on people in tough circumstances to do those jobs.

Such regulation inherently requires society to make decisions about what sort of work should be off limits to reduce social pressure to do those jobs. You might not agree that sex work falls in that category, but women themselves decisively do: https://www.vox.com/2016/3/11/11203740/prostitution-legal-me...

And as to your own view, do you think unemployment offices should tell women to look for jobs in sex work before they can get unemployment benefits? After all it’s just another job right?

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Kind of related to the financial aspects of this article: why is the housing market treated as the basis/most important part of the US economy and not, specifically, energy or finance? The article talks about financial institutions' ability to hinder or even halt growth altogether, and we saw similar actions being taken in Canada last year with the truckers. With regards to energy, I've heard that the cheaper energy is to produce in a nation, the wealthier it tends to be.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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> We also know that the vast majority of people who work in the "industry" are either coerced by others or forced into it by life circumstances We don't know that. We are told that, without evidence, a lot. And of course, technically, most of us are forced to work by life circumstances.

> And of course, technically, most of us are forced to work by life circumstances.

This is the point - sex work is a job just like any other and deserves at least the same protections as any other job.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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This is what I thought that “Censor-Resistant Payment Processing” post from a week ago was going to be about.

I would hope it would be. Pornographers use the courts to enforce their copyrights and other business arrangements. A good test for an anti-censorship payment processor would be handling payments for legal sex work.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Yeah I'm a bit curious about this too. I recall some studies showing even just folks at strip clubs enduring a lot of emotional pain and etc. Is it the job, is it the folks who take those jobs? I don't know but I'm skeptical about "It's simply a job." kind of blanket deceleration. Human sexuality is hardly like typing on a keyboard or etc... I don't buy into just declaring it like any other job. Granted I don't care…

Well there are many jobs, not all of which are comfortable keyboard jobs.

If you work with the elderly, especially in dementia care, included in your job description is mopping up piss and shit. You'll also receive all manner of verbal and physical abuse.

It is absolutely degrading.

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