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Re: Open Source PC That Fits in Your Pocket

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Post by soapdog »

kratom_sandwich wrote: post #132

Let me add this to my list - Has any of these made it ever into the hands of customers? I believe the only device that actually came out is the Cosmo Communicator ( https://www.www3.planetcom.co.uk/cosmo-communicator ) There's also Lisperati1000 - https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/comments/lbu4di/my_shiny_... Devterm - https://www.clockworkpi.com/devterm Popcorn Pocket - https://pocket.popcorncomputer.com/ Teenyserv…

They larger laptop, MNT Reform, has been shipping for a while. Some friends of mine have it and I've met Lukas and played with a prototype at Fosdem long time ago. It is a real thing and it is a beauty. I'm saving for one.

Re: Open Source PC That Fits in Your Pocket

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Post by teddyh »

ElCheapo wrote: post #129
tmikaeld wrote: post #126

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The key is the keyboard is integrated and foldable, it's the convenience and portability that is key. With an android (with two exceptions), you have to have two separate pieces, something to put them on and then pair and charge both parts. In short: You can pull it out of your pocket anywhere, type something with both thumbs on a full keyboard, then fold it down again in seconds. There are Android phones with a full…

Your reply is baffling. First you say that with "android" (as if they made hardware) you can't have an integrated keyboard. Then you say that Android phones with a full integrated keyboard actually exist. But then you move the goalpost saying that they aren't open source/hardware. Which is false, by the way, since this device [ https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/pro1 ] runs LineageOS, and phones with completely free…

(Note: The Pro¹ from F(x)tec has been superseded by the Pro¹ X, released this month.)

Re: Open Source PC That Fits in Your Pocket

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Post by capableweb »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #148
jakuboboza wrote: post #120

Steam Deck is perfectly fine mini PC that is reasonably portable it is also a decent console. If You will but 20-30 USD dock that has more than 1 output you can plug power, monitor and mouse/keyboard combo. You can go with portable mouse/keyboard and dock/usb-c-hdmi cable to any place and plug it into a hotel TV and be setup on your portable linux machine that can also...game :)

Could it handle one of those one-wire-to-rule-them-all USB-C docks? I was contemplating this for my gaming needs so I could retire my big-ass desktop. But since I only play at home, and already have the desktop, I figured I wouldn't bother. But I hadn't thought of this use case, so if it could handle it, it would be a game-changer.

It does. I got the USB-C dock/hub for PinePhone when I bought the phone, and it works perfectly well for Steam Deck as well. It cost something like $30 and I'm sure it works with other docks/hubs as well, in addition to the official one that will come soon according to Valve.

Re: Open Source PC That Fits in Your Pocket

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Post by jakuboboza »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #148
jakuboboza wrote: post #120

Steam Deck is perfectly fine mini PC that is reasonably portable it is also a decent console. If You will but 20-30 USD dock that has more than 1 output you can plug power, monitor and mouse/keyboard combo. You can go with portable mouse/keyboard and dock/usb-c-hdmi cable to any place and plug it into a hotel TV and be setup on your portable linux machine that can also...game :)

Could it handle one of those one-wire-to-rule-them-all USB-C docks? I was contemplating this for my gaming needs so I could retire my big-ass desktop. But since I only play at home, and already have the desktop, I figured I wouldn't bother. But I hadn't thought of this use case, so if it could handle it, it would be a game-changer.

i have "reinston" dock that is more less noname usb-c to 2 x USB, 2 x USB-c and sd/tf card reader + ofc HDMI plug. So I'm kinda just plugging everything in and surprise it works.

My dock is more less a "no name" picked in store to try it out.

Also it has option to stream games rendered from your PC so you can play titles like CP2077 on steam deck rendered from your desktop if you feels so.

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Post by rjsw »

ElCheapo wrote: post #131
rowanG077 wrote: post #127

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You can transmit FM radio on Android with a keyboard attachment? How?

How is the presence of an antenna in any way demonstrative of the general purpose computing capabilities of the N900 as opposed to "not pocketable PC" Androids? I believe that if I were to attach a USB radio module to my phone I could write an Android app to make use of it as a trasmitter.

The point of the FM transmitter was to be able to use the N900 with a car head unit to play music from the phone.

Re: Open Source PC That Fits in Your Pocket

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Post by pessimizer »

ElCheapo wrote: post #141
dspillett wrote: post #134

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> But then you move the goalpost Let us be fair here: you moved the goalposts first by going from “it is an absolute fantasy” to, once people pointed out that they already exist, “but I can't see a use for one”.

>Let us be fair here Why even say this if you immediately proceed by not being fair? Pocketable computers are not a "fantasy" in the sense that there aren't any devices capable of running a desktop OS while being pocketable. This was never the argument, as also demonstrated by my other replies in the thread. My argument is that using a pocketable device as a desktop or laptop is a fantasy. It's something that sounds…

Then it's an unfalsifiable argument and people are wasting their time discussing it with you in good faith. After I got my N900, I didn't feel a need to bring my laptop on short vacations, because I could do everything on it that I could on my laptop. But no matter what I say, you believe I'd be better served with a complete suite of apps that both are specifically tailored for me and don't exist.

Of course that's true. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that if you wrote an entire gnutils userspace for Android, and gave me a slide out keyboard instead of obliterating half my screen if I need to do input, you would have given me something that is almost identical to an N900.

Re: Open Source PC That Fits in Your Pocket

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Post by pessimizer »

jstanley wrote: post #144
ElCheapo wrote: post #108

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>GP adapted the the form factor to his needs. My point is that drastic I/O adaptation almost always require UI/UX adaptations, which doesn't happen with these enthusiast projects. >Home theater nowadays has no similarity with the interface needs of cable/satellite TV, so why would you be hung up on using the same remote control interface? Because that's what people use. If we went by some "blank slate" argument then…

I use Gnome on my TV, with a Bluetooth keyboard. It works great. I don't see what advantage Kodi's interface has.

I use MATE. I'd like a better tv-tuner application, because that's a hole in FOSS, but I also can't stand the Kodi interface although I've have made many attempts to adopt it to my use case from back when it was XBMC. The Kodi interface is more annoying and difficult to navigate than a standard PC desktop with the font sizes bumped up used with remote keyboard/touchpad that is smaller than my remote.

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Post by mastazi »

ElCheapo wrote: post #104
mastazi wrote: post #100

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Is there some law that mandates using a remote? I don't really understand your point

Using Linux on a TV is not the same as using a TV as a general computing device. You still use it as a media consumption machine, and that's why you've been able to set it up accordingly. Now what if I asked you to set up your TV to do everything I do on my general purpose laptop or desktop computer? It would suck, plain and simple.

Yes, this is true, point taken, I wouldn't try and use that TV to do work. But, as a streaming machine, it is really awesome, I get a level of flexibility that Apple/Google/Fire TV would never allow. But I agree with you, it's not going to replace my desktop or my laptop any time soon.

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Post by pessimizer »

ElCheapo wrote: post #104
mastazi wrote: post #100

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Is there some law that mandates using a remote? I don't really understand your point

Using Linux on a TV is not the same as using a TV as a general computing device. You still use it as a media consumption machine, and that's why you've been able to set it up accordingly. Now what if I asked you to set up your TV to do everything I do on my general purpose laptop or desktop computer? It would suck, plain and simple.

> Now what if I asked you to set up your TV to do everything I do on my general purpose laptop or desktop computer? It would suck, plain and simple.

I don't understand the distinction you're trying to make between having an Intel NUC on my desk connected to a monitor and a keyboard, or having one mounted to the back of my television (or monitor placed in the room as if it were a television), and controlling it with my remote keyboard. They're both general-purpose computers, they both do exactly the same thing, the TV runs Debian Stable and my PC runs Debian Testing.

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