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Soldering Wires – Here's a different way

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Re: Soldering Wires – Here's a different way

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Surely unrelated but I remember being 15 (30 years ago) and being an electric guitar player with modest or no economic resources. I'm not saying that I celebrated the moment when one of my wires or jacks broke, but it felt great fixing it with a little patience and some soldering. I am close now to many musicians that never fixed any of their wires/cables. I kinda like to belong to those older times.

The last few years I’ve been getting out and playing guitar with more people. The thing I found most surprising was how most guitar players don’t know how to fix their guitars. I genuinely enjoy fixing my guitars.

Re: Soldering Wires – Here's a different way

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have one, but I don’t know what temperature to set it to and there are probably other flaws in my technique, so it’s still trial and error.

Depends on the solder and the component, for wires there is no way to hurt it so you can crank up for efficiency, and for sensitive components you need to be more careful. It’s actually much harder to make a good solder joint with lead free solder, so be kind to yourself about it. No harm in re-doing a joint.

You can melt the insulation off the wires :-/

Anyhow, I never fried a part with the iron. Heated the wire just enough to flow the solder, and applied heat only barely long enough.

To avoid needing a third hand for some joints, I'd pre-fill the hole with solder. Then heat it up again till it melted, and push the wire in.

Re: Soldering Wires – Here's a different way

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post #38

Oh boy, nice idea, but this looks complicated and time consuming. I recommend to get some good equipment first: - solder fume extractor (see below) - extra thin high quality tin - a desoldering pump AND desoldering wire - high quality flux - a TS 100 soldering Iron with KU tip from ali express for 50 bucks - optional: USB-C Power Adapter for your existing power supply (so you don't have to buy one) - optional: a sold…

As someone aspiring to solder more, thanks for this list! Do you have any thoughts on the TS 100 vs the Pinecil? I thought the Pinecil was a slightly newer and more refined iron but curious if you have an opinion. https://pine64.com/product/pinecil-smart-mini-portable-solde...

Not the original commenter, but the pinecil has been serving extremely well for a while now. I ordered it when it launched and probably use it every two weeks.

Full disclaimer I know some people had trouble with the USB-C power input so YMMV, but considering the price it's probably the most cost-effective tool I ever bought.

Re: Soldering Wires – Here's a different way

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I was taught to heat the wire and touch the solder to it. This looks like they are laying the wire on the solder, then heating the solder - not the wire. Won't this result in a cold solder on the wire?

Lots of the joints in the images are sub-standard. This method is fine if you're happy bodging something together, but it's not great.

Re: Soldering Wires – Here's a different way

#47

great technique to triple solder usage of simple wire joins and as many have already said, pretty good way to get a cold joint or pockets

Yeah, but it's from the 70s, so it has to be good, right?

plus with the accent it's more authoritative (at least to my US ears).

Re: Soldering Wires – Here's a different way

#48

Oh boy, nice idea, but this looks complicated and time consuming. I recommend to get some good equipment first: - solder fume extractor (see below) - extra thin high quality tin - a desoldering pump AND desoldering wire - high quality flux - a TS 100 soldering Iron with KU tip from ali express for 50 bucks - optional: USB-C Power Adapter for your existing power supply (so you don't have to buy one) - optional: a sold…

> Now flash IronOS[1] on your soldering Iron I got to here and thought this was some elaborate joke, and expected the github page to continue on with the joke. An operating system for a soldering iron?? But no, it seems 100% serious. Somehow soldering iron tech passed me by.

Anything more than your basic soldering iron is probably running a PID loop to control temperature. I don't know if my hakko is supported by IronOS but I could easily see it as a useful option.

It's the flashlight guys who have really run amok:

https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/xopqft/prob_a_g...

Re: Soldering Wires – Here's a different way

#49
Soldering is good, BUT...

You should avoid soldering when possible because connectors are detachable for module maintenance and solder is prone to cracking in high vibration environments. Typically you will see a connector soldered and otherwise secured mechanically to a PCB where vibrations are unavoidable.

Crimping is better whenever feasible

Re: Soldering Wires – Here's a different way

#50

Oh boy, nice idea, but this looks complicated and time consuming. I recommend to get some good equipment first: - solder fume extractor (see below) - extra thin high quality tin - a desoldering pump AND desoldering wire - high quality flux - a TS 100 soldering Iron with KU tip from ali express for 50 bucks - optional: USB-C Power Adapter for your existing power supply (so you don't have to buy one) - optional: a sold…

100% on the fume extractor. Avoid the cheap little "carbon filter" models though. You need particulate filtration and a bit of organic vapour extraction, so HEPA +/- carbon if you are going to recirculate it within your work environment.

Don't take my word for it, it's all explained in the NIOSH and OSHA handbooks.

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