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Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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> Wow, you must be a hit at parties. Ad hominem attack. > The way I phrased that sentence is how some some dialects of English, like the one I speak, express agreement. Consider it shorthand for "I agree,". There is no English dialect that does not include the adverb, "yeah," etymologically formed from drawling the affirmation, "yes," colloquially and informally. More often, however, "yeah" is employed as a common fi…

> ...as such, when written, it is meaningless and superfluous. In modern usage, however, it may most often be correctly replaced with the phrase, "as a Millennial, I informally The distinction between spoken and written seems a) arbitrary and b) entirely irrelevant to a comment section on a website. I'm writing conversationally, comments aren't technical documentation or tenders, they're comments. Observations in pas…

> Being honest, when you opened with... ...whatever your thinking there was, I immediately shut down on engagement.

My thinking was the tenor of your comment was overly informal and self-gratifying considering the subject, a major theme of whose teachings was humility. It doesn't quite follow that being antagonistic is not engagement.

> Anyway, you got your chronology slightly wrong but only slightly, so very much well done, and I mean that genuinely, and it only erred in where you placed Acts, which contains the earliest Christian writings. (That we know of (so far))

"The earliest possible date for Luke-Acts is around 62 AD,[citation needed] the time of Paul's imprisonment in Rome, but most scholars date the work to 80–90 AD on the grounds that it uses Mark as a source, looks back on the destruction of Jerusalem, and does not show any awareness of the letters of Paul (which began circulating late in the first century); if it does show awareness of the Pauline epistles, and also of the work of the Jewish historian Josephus, as some believe, then a date in the early 2nd century is possible."[1]

"The Gospel of Mark... is usually dated through the eschatological discourse in Mark 13: most scholars interpret this as pointing to the First Jewish–Roman War (66–74 AD) that would lead to the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD, with the composition of Mark taking place either immediately after the destruction (the majority position) or during the years immediately prior."[2]

"A majority of scholars agree that Galatians was written between the late 40s and early 50s, although some date the original composition to c. 50–60."[3]

"The Epistle to Philemon was composed around AD 57-62 by Paul while in prison at Caesarea Maritima (early date) or more likely from Rome (later date) in conjunction with the composition of Colossians."[4]

"Regardless of the literary unity of the letter, scholars agree that the material that was compiled into the Epistle to the Philippians was originally composed in Greek, sometime during the 50s or early 60s AD."[5]

The earliest surviving subject materials are the authentic Pauline Epistles, and the oldest surviving Gospel is the one attributed to John Mark. It has been theorized and argued that a lost Gospel, a gospel of sayings, known as the Q source,[6] was composed earlier or around the same time as Mark, with the Gospel of Thomas a candidate for the Q source, but most place the date of Thomas' composition after the 2nd Century, and there is no consensus on whether the Q source existed. The earliest recorded words attributed to Jesus are found in Matthew 5-7, portions of the Sermon on the Mount[7] ("Blessed are the cheesemakers...")[8]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_the_Apostles#Title,_un...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark#Authorship,_dat...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistle_to_the_Galatians#Date

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistle_to_Philemon#Compositio...

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistle_to_the_Philippians#Com...

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source

[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatitudes

[8] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFPIGNua5WM

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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It’s so ridiculous that you have invented something completely unlike what is in the book. They don’t try to force anything to line up to powers of ten, they haven’t changed the length of the second, and they have wearable computers to eliminate any and all annoyances associated with communicating long timestamps. Although the book only hints at how things are implemented, the result is apparently really flexible. Th…

I had to invent it to imagine some (however far-fetched) conditions under which it would be usable. But it isn't, because these conditions are not practically possible. It's just stupid (as it often happens to be with sci-fi). It is just living without the calendar, that's all that it is. And calendar is a useful invention, basically a necessity for any society out of stone age. Sure, you can just set up a timer whic…

I don’t find it hard to imagine living without a calendar, or with an arbitrary calendar whose divisions are entirely within my control.

In fact, while it might be a strain to keep everything straight in my head without a traditional calendar, it wouldn’t be difficult using pen and paper. One use for a paper calendar is to record distant future events such as dentist appointments, and I don’t see how that would be harder on a linear timeline instead of a grid of days.

Naturally I have used scheduling software to arrange meetings, and I can imagine how it would work when you don’t have a fixed calendar.

But perhaps I have an unfair advantage. Due to a minor sleep disorder, I have a 25–hour day; I sleep for 8 hours and remain awake for 17. This means that my sleep cycle is never in sync with anyone else, and the limitations of our calendaring software have always been pretty obvious to me. You can imagine the annoyance that dentist appointments cause me, since I never know if I’ll be awake during the day when I am scheduling one. Paper calendars have very limited utility for me.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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I had to invent it to imagine some (however far-fetched) conditions under which it would be usable. But it isn't, because these conditions are not practically possible. It's just stupid (as it often happens to be with sci-fi). It is just living without the calendar, that's all that it is. And calendar is a useful invention, basically a necessity for any society out of stone age. Sure, you can just set up a timer whic…

I don’t find it hard to imagine living without a calendar, or with an arbitrary calendar whose divisions are entirely within my control. In fact, while it might be a strain to keep everything straight in my head without a traditional calendar, it wouldn’t be difficult using pen and paper. One use for a paper calendar is to record distant future events such as dentist appointments, and I don’t see how that would be ha…

What about adding a recurring 8 hour calendar block that comes every 17 hours? Then you have a graphical representation of your sleep across time that allows you to fit appointments in.

If you can't program it, and the software makes this hard to do, you can use Amazon Turk or something.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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Looks cute.

Roots of most of these words aren't instantly obvious even to Poles though - the meaning is there, but hidden behind layers of language evolution. I was aware of some of those roots already, but with some others I went like "huh, I guess this makes sense" only after reading the parent comment (although I'm not sure whether all of them are actually correct).

It was pretty obvious to me (except styczeń). But I did read Gołubiew's "Bolesław Chrobry" series that's written in Polish stylized to 10th century :)

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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Or the 11 missing days in 1582. I mean, programmers love to bitch about time zones, but that’s nothing compared to the stink we’d have raised if we’d been coding in a time when the date depended on which country you were in.

This is still the case, since timezone differences affect day boundaries.

Not to the same extent. Sure it can be Wednesday 28th in Paris while it’s still Tuesday 27th in London… but then it will be Wednesday 28th in London soon.

That’s really not the same thing as it being Wednesday 28th in Paris while it’s Wednesday 17th in London. When the 28th rolls round in London, it won’t be a Wednesday…

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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Moon influences us in three ways: Time, Tide and Light. We now have apps that inform us. But. If we can read a lunar calendar, we can organise our life around the moon cycles. There is a reason the word ‘lunatic’ is derived from ‘lunar’. We are mostly made of water. Luna definitely has an effect on our bodies and our moods. Why isn’t it a good thing to understand the ecosystems around us that is time and space..and t…

> We are mostly made of water. Luna definitely has an effect on our bodies and our moods I accept that the moon has effects in the tides. As for the rest... I have heard that before, but every time it was by someone who standed to gain something from me believing that - that when Moon is on the 7th House and Jupiter Aligns With Mars then Peace will Guide the Planets and Love Will Steer me to open my wallet and regist…

No, I don’t have the time to search for a credible source about the effect of Moon upon Planet Earth.

However, I am a student of astrology tho’…maybe I can see how your natal Moon will steer you. But I am not sure how much you will appreciate it being invested in Science and all that. Take care.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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As a English Canadian who works for a company that was bought by an American company and was force switched to Sunday as the first day of the week….what? Maybe we “officially” or legally have Sundays as the first day but my entire life has been Mondays first. Every calendar I’ve had has been that way as well. It still messes with my mind, even four years later, that at work Sunday is the first day of the week.

What part of English Canada? In Alberta or Ontario (the parts I've lived in, though I was pretty young when I lived in Ontario) I've literally never seen a calendar with Monday as the first day of the week that I can recall.

British Columbia.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#989

This is absolutely hilarious, and despite being long form, fits Twitter format very well, with each chunk funnier than the last :) A few notes: - Per my knowledge US is the only country which stubbornly (and illogically) considers Sunday to be the first day of the week; - US (and maybe one or two English-speaking countries) are the only ones using 12h time, the rest of the world uses 24hrs, however 12h _sometimes_ is…

> - Per my knowledge US is the only country which stubbornly (and illogically) considers Sunday to be the first day of the week;

Brazil does the same as seemingly do Grece and Japan.

Also, in Portuguese, Monday is _segunda-feira_ which roughly translates as second-day.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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What do you mean you find it offensive? Are you offended at the assertion that people doubt that Jesus existed at all? As one data point I can assure you that I personally doubt that Jesus existed at all. Are you offended by people doubting that Jesus existed? If you are a Christian then you are a believer in one of the hundreds of religions from around the world. To be offended that someone doubts the existence of t…

It is convenient to ignore (historical) consensus here isn't it? I am sure you have a similar reaction when certain people disbelieve scientific consensus right? on topics such as vaccination or climate change?

I'm not sure why you're sure I have a similar reaction about scientific consensus perhaps you've just got .... faith in your feelings. Ba doom tish.

Scientific observations can be repeated. Religion teachings are, almost by definition, the exact opposite.

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