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Re: Show HN: Get conversational practice in over 20 languages by talking to an AI

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post #90

First, I’d like to say I really love this product. Thanks for making this. Second, where are the companies that are doing this type of thing for NPC dialogue in games. Imagine playing Mass Effect or Skyrim but where you get to ask whatever and the NPC responds with something that fits within the space of possible answers based on the prompt that defined their existence.

From what I read (on /r/gamedesign, /r/proceduralgeneration and Gamasutra) it's about control.

The AAA studies leave nothing to chance when it is about the game play. Once "AI" speech comes to a level where the NPC will only answer with pre-sanctioned content they might jump onto the band wagon ... but seeing that it is very much possible to generate porn with "censored" stable diffusion ... we won't see "free" AIs in games any time soon.

Re: Show HN: Get conversational practice in over 20 languages by talking to an AI

#122
post #114

Absolutely outstanding. Small request: for japaneese, it would be great to include a japaneese phonetic transcription of the text in western alphabet. It would help distinguish words and make it easier to learn new vocabulary..

another small feedback, would be good to be able to tune the speaking rate, the default speed is pretty fast

Re: Show HN: Get conversational practice in over 20 languages by talking to an AI

#123

Clever. But I'll never use it. AIs simply do not sound like people. They can fool me for a little while, but eventually you realize it's just a bot. But that's when I'm a native speaker. How will I be able to detect this when I struggle with the language? I can't help but think it's dangerous to give a non native speaker access to this, and lead them to believe they're learning to speak like a real person. They aren'…

> AIs simply do not sound like people. They can fool me for a little while, but eventually you realize it's just a bot.

Why would a language learner be concerned about that? If I thought it was a real person, I'd become alarmed, because that's not what it was presented to me as.

> You take whatever biases the AI has, and encode it into a living, breathing person.

Biases towards certain adjectives? I don't even understand this comment. It could lead you into speaking weird Spanish if it speaks weird Spanish, but I imagine that would be something they were trying to improve if they noticed it. And growing up in a weird place or having a weird family could also result in you speaking weird Spanish. You still speak Spanish, which is what language learners are looking for, and if you want to sound like a particular class of Spanish speaker, you would hang out with them and consume their media.

I mean, my own English is pretty bad in my opinion, but it's a dream level for an aspiring language learner. Practicing their English with me would be useful, even if my speaking is somehow "biased." Are you telling me that language practice with an AI is worthless, or even a sin?

I really don't understand a bit of this comment. So much so that I'm suspicious that it was generated by a model.

Re: Show HN: Get conversational practice in over 20 languages by talking to an AI

#124
post #99

Meanwhile there are millions of people in poor countries who would love to have a conversation with you in French, Spanish, Portuguese, etc. over Skype.

Poor countries people with a laptop, a descent internet connection for streaming, available at any time of the day instantly, and ready to have a 2 minutes stupid conversation about anything random ?

Not so sure ..

Re: Show HN: Get conversational practice in over 20 languages by talking to an AI

#125
As someone who is studying Japanese intensely with a tutor this is absolutely perfect for me! Being able to do some speaking and listening practice instantly at any time is exactly what I need!

A few feature requests:

- save conversations and come back to them

- history of past conversations

- auto speak the sentence

- larger buttons particularly for the microphone

Re: Show HN: Get conversational practice in over 20 languages by talking to an AI

#126
post #102

am rusty chinese speaker. randomly assigned to converse on Furniture & Locations. --- Quazel: 告诉我吧!你是如何安排你的家具的? Me (in halting, broken chinese): 窗户旁边有一个沙发,中间是电视和桌子。我的工作就是在这里. Quazel: 所以你的沙发是面向窗户的?那真的很好。我敢打赌,这样你会得到很多自然光。沙发后面是什么呢? translated Quazel: How do you arrange your furniture? Me: There is a couch next to the window, with a TV and table in the middle. This is where I work. Quazel: So you have your couch facing t…

Native Chinese speaker here. While Quazel has shown ability in understanding the context, its Chinese is not as authentic as that of a real teacher. Grammatically correct, but sounds weird. (for example, the phrase "I bet" is rarely used in Chinese)

Maybe the weirdness is an innate characteristic of machine translation, so I'm not being too harsh here. But IMO it cannot take the place of a human teacher (at least now).

Re: Show HN: Get conversational practice in over 20 languages by talking to an AI

#127
I tried out Hungarian — I speak it well but have an accent — and it got some parts wrong in the transcription that a human speaker would definitely understand. A second try was better but not quite 100% and I do worry about edge cases with languages that might have less training data or less precise classification. Also for Hungarian the response was a bit weird, though on topic.

I was using Google (via some speech to text notebook web app) to practice Thai pronunciation and had the opposite problem, where the machine understood when I’m pretty sure my pronunciation was bad enough an average Thai would not understand me.

That said, I would absolutely pay for something like this if it covered the language I’m trying to learn, even if imperfectly. And at least for beginners, forcing you to speak plainly is not necessarily a bad thing.

Any plans for pricing? Subscription or by use or…?

Re: Show HN: Get conversational practice in over 20 languages by talking to an AI

#128
post #90

First, I’d like to say I really love this product. Thanks for making this. Second, where are the companies that are doing this type of thing for NPC dialogue in games. Imagine playing Mass Effect or Skyrim but where you get to ask whatever and the NPC responds with something that fits within the space of possible answers based on the prompt that defined their existence.

> where are the companies that are doing this type of thing for NPC dialogue in games.

I'd put good money on AAA studios actively working on this. Voice acting budgets make up a non-trivial portion of expenses and actively constrain the scope of games. Studios are definitely investing in this, game dev cycles just take a lot of time on top of the R&D.

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