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Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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off-topic, but is it really appropriate to be describing your friend's private medical history on a public website that will be archived far and wide? i think your comment is still valid without his name being mentioned.

Most definitely up-voted! Thanks for the concern 'there' but the info I posted is entirely and intentionally public knowledge. Eric went through a great deal medically, started a foundation to help others with ALL, and even had his identity stolen while undergoing chemo up in Washington state by the person who took his blood samples every day. His case was aired on "60 minutes" or "Dateline" and resulted in one of th…

Knew the name sounded familiar - I remember reading about this guy in National Geographic or something. Amazing story.

Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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Many stores ask for it. Radioshack I believe is a prime example of this. I've never heard of them hassling you if you refuse however.

Radioshack stopped doing that a while back.

Ah, good to hear.

Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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I'm not sure why they wouldn't allow some form of in-person registration accompanied by an STD screen at a clinic for people who they are eliminating now for being too "high-risk"? The marrow guys could even cover the cost of the STD screen for people who register for the program. Seems to me this would be an even safer way of ensuring potential donors don't have HIV than just asking them about their sex lives...

HIV doesn't show up immediately (possibly other STDs are the same, not sure off the top of my head), if I remember correctly most people will test positive within 3 months of being infected.

The standard HIV test people do (ELISA) tests for the antibodies produced against HIV, not the HIV strain itself.

Donated blood is tested with PCR, which detects the HIV RNA. PCR test detects HIV in as quick as a couple of weeks.

However, because of the added cost (and time cost) of running PCR tests, donated blood samples are pooled before being tested. If the test runs positive, samples are tested individually.

Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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How difficult is it to find matches for patients? Anybody know what the odds are for the average patient in need? I ask because I registered a couple years ago but haven't ever heard anything since.

I've heard a few numbers thrown around, 1 in 20,000 comes up often, but I haven't found any reputable sources to back that up. According to the National Marrow Donor Program:

"On average, one in every 540 members of Be The Match Registry in the United States will go on to donate marrow to a patient."

http://marrow.org/Registry_Members/Donation/Donation_FAQs.as...

I can say from personal experience that I've been a registered donor for 8 years, and only just yesterday did I receive an e-mail saying that I may be a possible match for a patient. The process going forward is fairly long with tests along the way to be certain (http://marrow.org/Registry_Members/Donation/Steps_of_Donatio...). I was told it could be up to 2 months before doctors decide if I move on to the next stage of donation. If the doctors decide I'm the best match, it could be another 6 months before the actual donation.

Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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Since I'm still gay, I'm not allowed to help, no matter how many times you ask. I get why they do this and I shouldn't let it bother me, but emotionally it feels the same as if they just said, "Please become a donor, nohomo." edit: Of course I still wish the very best for Amit.

All Europeans are also banned from giving blood for forever. I'm a very recent transplant to the US from Denmark. I was a regular blood donor in Denmark and checked up on the US regulations before moving here. Even wrote the local blood bank because I didn't believe that the "if you've lived more than 5 years in Europe, you can't give blood ever" was for real. Sadly, the rule is very much real. The blood bank was als…

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Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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Since I'm still gay, I'm not allowed to help, no matter how many times you ask. I get why they do this and I shouldn't let it bother me, but emotionally it feels the same as if they just said, "Please become a donor, nohomo." edit: Of course I still wish the very best for Amit.

All Europeans are also banned from giving blood for forever. I'm a very recent transplant to the US from Denmark. I was a regular blood donor in Denmark and checked up on the US regulations before moving here. Even wrote the local blood bank because I didn't believe that the "if you've lived more than 5 years in Europe, you can't give blood ever" was for real. Sadly, the rule is very much real. The blood bank was als…

"All Europeans are also banned from giving blood for forever. "

Any idea what the rationale for this is? There must be some reason for making a regulation like this.

Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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Since I'm still gay, I'm not allowed to help, no matter how many times you ask. I get why they do this and I shouldn't let it bother me, but emotionally it feels the same as if they just said, "Please become a donor, nohomo." edit: Of course I still wish the very best for Amit.

Hi nostromo,

I'm a Level II Volunteer for the National Marrow Donor Program, meaning I've had the training to coordinate and run drives locally. Let me preface my comment by saying I'm in no shape or form someone who is qualified to speak for the organization as a whole, as I've only become a volunteer in the last year. These thoughts are my own.

In my limited experience being a part of marrow drives I've come across many people, both volunteers and potential registrants alike, who feel similar sentiments to those that you have expressed -- myself included. There's a lot about becoming a donor that I really wish was better. The policy to not accept homosexuals as donors is created by some FDA(?) policy, so while I also "get it" at face value I wish the reasoning was better substantiated than a blanket ban on a specific group of people. Unfortunately as volunteers we operate on the hope that those that set these medical guidelines have more expertise/experience/knowledge than we do, so we have little choice but to follow them as dictated.

There are other shortcomings. As others in this thread have expressed, the registration form is crazy long. There are reasons for that too -- an inability to contact matches on the registry results in over a 50% false-matching rate in some ethnic groups -- but still, it's not ideal. The form is also very personal, and while the NMDP takes confidentiality very seriously perhaps they don't emphasize that enough. Trying to glean bone marrow information off of existing websites can be a very kludgey process, as several of the websites can be difficult to read/navigate. And there's a bias in the registration process for ethnic minorities, simply because they are so underrepresented that there's funding in place to cover their $100 marrow processing fees. White Americans don't have as much funding. 75% of the registry is made up of White Americans, and when we register White Americans we must ask for financial donations to help displace some of those registration costs. As a Korean-American, minority volunteer, it bothers me that whenever a white person comes to the table I must ask for a donation but I don't necessarily need to do so for minorities. It's not because I want to be racially discriminatory. It's solely because of a lack of funds.

At the end of the day, despite the parts that I wish were different, I still do my best to recruit donors. I know that the time taken to register every new individual to the registry is really a chance at life for someone who is dying. Being a cancer survivor myself I don't think I'll ever be able to forget the feelings of sheer despair and uncertainty surrounding my health, so I know that to come to the aid of someone in that situation, with no other options, is really an incredible, life-changing opportunity.

I really commend you for your honesty, and I don't sense bitterness at bone marrow donation in your comment but sadness at the circumstances. I hope you know that you are not alone in that. Here's to hoping one day bone marrow registration gets easier/more accurate/more efficient, and more accepting.

Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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I'm not a gay male but refuse to be part of organizations who discriminate against them. I know they are trying to save lives but eliminating potential matches and discrimination is not the way to do that.

It's unfortunately not the organizations' fault. In general, they'd be thrilled to take anyone's blood after they screen it. The rule is specifically legislated.

Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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From wikipedia: "The vast majority of people (97%) have detectable antibodies by three months after HIV infection; a six-month window is extremely rare with modern antibody testing." So if the transfer can work with a 3 month delay (I'm not sure if it can, just assuming), and the HIV test comes back clean, you're going to have a 97% chance of a true-negative, 3% chance of false-negative. At that point, comparing it t…

It isn't a 3% chance of a false negative, the 97% figure is conditioned on actually having HIV. The actual chance of a false negative is far lower, since most people don't have HIV at all.

Good point. You could also realistically eliminate those who know they are infected from the potential false-negative category, which would give you an initial pool of 240,000[1] potential infected who don't know they're infected. Among them there is a 3% chance of non-response within 3 months to antibody testing, for a total of 7,200 false-negative potential candidates out there among 309,000,000 total Americans. Then consider the 1 in 20,000 odds [2] of being a match, and you end up with a false-negative match rate of 0.00117 per million people (according to wolfram alpha [3]).

I probably screwed something up, but in any case you are definitely right that the false-negative odds are very low among all potential applicants. Really makes the argument against seem foolish.

1) http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57333212-10391704/cdc...

2) http://www.organtransplants.org/understanding/marrow/

3) http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%281%2F20000%29++*+%...

Re: Amit Gupta hasn't found a marrow transplant match; today's your last chance.

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Since I'm still gay, I'm not allowed to help, no matter how many times you ask. I get why they do this and I shouldn't let it bother me, but emotionally it feels the same as if they just said, "Please become a donor, nohomo." edit: Of course I still wish the very best for Amit.

Get tested for a match anyway - if you match you can always say you didn't read the papers very carefully and that as gay person you can't donate.

Then when he dies we have somebody to point to and say "this person could have been saved, but for your bigotry".

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