When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
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When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
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Re: When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
#2Their plan is to remove old text-only protocols, and force to use XAUTH or similar protocols that requires use of a web browser, so they can spy you with cookies and more metadata. Both Google and Microsoft are announced this movement.
Re: When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
#3I get the impression that the article's author didn't really read the linked help page. It's basic auth that's getting deprecated, due to being considered a legacy authentication protocol. For good reasons, as described.
That aside, POP should really be considered legacy, it comes with many downsides that hinder people's e-mail usage. IMAP is definitely more functional, but has a successor - JMAP. So in some sense, it'd not even be entirely wrong to migrate.
Lack of HTTPS on the author's site also adds a nice subtle flavour to the blogpost.
Re: When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
#4Their plan is to remove old text-only protocols, and force to use XAUTH or similar protocols that requires use of a web browser, so they can spy you with cookies and more metadata. Both Google and Microsoft are announced this movement.
They're removing plain text auth because:
a) password doesn't support 2nd factor.
b) Most configurations keep password is on disk somewhere, often in plaintext.
c) User configurations break on password rotation.
Your tracking theory doesn't really hold up a) they know exactly who you are on your email client anyway as you log in and b) most users are logged in to their google/microsoft account anyway because of o375/workspace/youtube.
Re: When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
#5I get the impression that the article's author didn't really read the linked help page. It's basic auth that's getting deprecated, due to being considered a legacy authentication protocol. For good reasons, as described. That aside, POP should really be considered legacy, it comes with many downsides that hinder people's e-mail usage. IMAP is definitely more functional, but has a successor - JMAP. So in some sense, i…
Shaming people for not having HTTPS on their blog is not a great look. :/
Re: When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
#6POP, not IMAP
Re: When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
#7The protocols are seeing a decline in deployments but they're still very popular. See the below for a trend of the protocol over the past 5 years:
Re: When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
#8you have to jump through hoops to do basic auth (even over SSL) for IMAP/pop with gmail as well. (this has been true for some years now)
on one level, it's sad to see the open protocols go... on the other, google passwords are a big deal.
Re: When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
#9I get the impression that the article's author didn't really read the linked help page. It's basic auth that's getting deprecated, due to being considered a legacy authentication protocol. For good reasons, as described. That aside, POP should really be considered legacy, it comes with many downsides that hinder people's e-mail usage. IMAP is definitely more functional, but has a successor - JMAP. So in some sense, i…
Shaming people for not having HTTPS on their blog is not a great look. :/
I don't see the problem. HTTPS is basic internet hygiene. It's no worse than telling people they should mind their body odor when they're in a space with a lot of other people. Possibly indelicate, but undoubtedly true.
Re: When did POP and IMAP become a “legacy protocol?”
#10Standards are the enemy because they allow you to use alternate client implementations.