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Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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There’s still ambiguity in verbal language. On Sunday, if someone messages you “let’s do this next week” - do they mean “in the next 6 days” or “after 7 days from now”?

Almost universally meant to mean in the next 6 days. Next week implies after 7 days.

Slightly confused - don’t your two sentences contradict each other?

Edit: also on a Friday, you can say next week and mean Monday (3 days later)

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> Per my knowledge US is the only country which stubbornly (and illogically) considers Sunday to be the first day of the week /Officially/ almost everyone has standardized on ISO 8601 where Monday = 1 and Sunday = 7. But unofficially, not really. The week is still popularly understood to start on Sunday in English Canada, and probably some other parts of the English-speaking world. A quick check of Wikipedia suggests…

> The week is still popularly understood to start on Sunday in English Canada Interesting. How does software (e.g. Google Calendar) display weeks when in en_CA localization?

Most software I can think of lets you configure it independent of the locale.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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Why is it unacceptable to you for someone to explain why they do not find something funny? We are really not all the same. HN is a big old forum and there is no such thing as a normal response. That person was describing their personal reaction to ... something. I don't think that proscribing dogma is helpful in response.

> Why is it unacceptable to you for someone to explain why they do not find something funny? I mean, it's not "unacceptable", free speech and all. It's just silly to jump in and "well actually" a joke, especially when the explanation is kind of why the joke was funny.

Different people see humour in different ways or even not at all.

Do I really need to spell it out?

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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post #129

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Not to mention that quite a few countries are also missing those 12 days, but in completely different years . Greece did so in 1923, for example.

And iirc at least one country decided that was too simple, decided to gradually shift, then reverted, then did it in one go.

Another user mentioned that it was Sweden: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_calendar

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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post #133

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Honestly I didn't find it funny, maybe because it ignores the reasons of the inconsistencies, that by the way are perfectly understandable looking at space. Months are related to Moon's orbit, weeks to its phases. Months have other gods's names: Janus, Phoebe, Mars, Aphrodite, Maya, Juno... Julius and Augustus were emperors and from that point are just numerals, starting at March. It was associated with Mars because…

> Julius and Augustus were emperors and from that point are just numerals, starting at March It used to be numbers earlier, Quintilis and Sextilis were renamed for them. Apparently the Romans did not find hard naming even persons - they just went by numbers, as in Secundus, Quintus, Sextus, Septimus, Octavius, etc.

They didn't have too many personal names in general, IIRC about 20 or so commonly used, including numeric ones (there's even Decimus - I guess they had big families). And looking at how Ceasar is always Julius Ceasar (while his personal name was Gaius) it looks like they didn't use it too much outside of family and close friends. Which kinda makes sense - if you know 10 guys with personal name Gaius, it's not very useful to say just "we're having a party at Gaius' place tonight".

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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> I say holdouts, because it helps to understand that this isn’t agreed on even within the US. I disagree. I can’t remember having ever seen calendars display any day other than Sunday as the first of the week, except in the case of computer software made by non-Americans who didn’t think to localize it.

There’s still ambiguity in verbal language. On Sunday, if someone messages you “let’s do this next week” - do they mean “in the next 6 days” or “after 7 days from now”?

"Next" has terrible ambiguity, beyond the phrase "next week." If it's Monday and someone says "next Thursday" do they mean the coming Thursday (+3) or the one after that (+10)? I assume the latter, except when it's said by people who I know disagree!

But even with people I don't put in that category, I'd hesitate to assume +13 days if they said "next Sunday" on Monday. More likely they mean +6 when it's so far out...

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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Why is it illogical to have Sunday be the first day of the week? Maybe Saturday is logically the first day of the week since nobody in their right minds would want a work day (assuming a 5 day work Week) to be the first day. Like eating dessert first, starting the week with a day off just makes logical sense.

Why? One word: weekEND

Which end?

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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post #141

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In a ring buffer, you have a start and an end pointer, not two end pointers.

If we think of it like iterators in C++, though, begin() is Monday, and end() is the next Monday.

If Saturday is weekend, then Sunday is one-past-the-end. ;)

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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This is absolutely hilarious, and despite being long form, fits Twitter format very well, with each chunk funnier than the last :) A few notes: - Per my knowledge US is the only country which stubbornly (and illogically) considers Sunday to be the first day of the week; - US (and maybe one or two English-speaking countries) are the only ones using 12h time, the rest of the world uses 24hrs, however 12h _sometimes_ is…

The Swatch time is a variation on the fractional day. Astronomers use it, with .00 being noon and .50 being midnight. You can extend it to any precision you like, 1/100,000th of a day makes for a good 'decimal second.' I like knowing what percentage of the day is over, a friend of mine says it'd drive her crazy knowing exactly how much time gets wasted.

Why does midnight matter? And since we don’t use local noon, why does noon matter?

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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Almost universally meant to mean in the next 6 days. Next week implies after 7 days.

Slightly confused - don’t your two sentences contradict each other? Edit: also on a Friday, you can say next week and mean Monday (3 days later)

Sorry I read your post incorrectly. If I say, let's do something this week, it means up to and including Sunday. If I say next week, it means after the upcoming Sunday.
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