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Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

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Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#71

What is wrong with saying everything is an approximation and is made as a means for convenience that is not supposed to be perfect.

I think the point of the article is to look at things from am engineering/scientist perspective where saying such things would get you fired/scrutinized.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#72
I'm a little bit surprised nobody pointed out the obvious.

When we first communicate with aliens about our time system we will start by explaining unix epoch.

Only than will we break out the spaghetti code required to map dates and zones and the uncertainty of some historical jumps.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#73
We really need to update the system of years, it gives way too much weight to Christianity and serves as reinforcement to their misguided belief that their religion is somehow preeminent. It also gives the impression to the general public that history "began" at year 0, rather than being clear that recorded human history goes back around 5000 years.

Living in the year 5022 gives a much different perspective of history than starting at some random time in the middle of the Roman Empire. The other option is beginning the calendar at the first transistor or the first nuclear explosion signaling modern times.

The we could fix the months and be done with it.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#74
Sounds like a person who thinks they know better than everyone else, that the tradeoffs accumulated in a system are just arbitrary and worthless. “Tear it all down, I can build something MUCH better!”

I look forward to the day when this person’s wishes to not be shared on HN are granted in full.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#75

At least New Year’s Day no longer falls on 25th March.

Depends, in the northern hemisphere this would be when spring is starting, so when the whole nature comes to life full power. Might be more appropriate, as a start of a new year, instead of choosing the time when the cold starts..

If New Year’s Day was still 25th March, that Twitter thread would have complained about the year starting partway through a month.

March 1st would make sense in terms of Sep/Oct/Nov/Dec having the right names for their place in the year.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#77
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s more than just 25, they often go to 29, to indicate 5am. They do this to make it clear that it is an overnight service starting in one calendar day and terminating in another. It’s not just a simple substitute for “1 am”.

I don't get it.

I think:

If a coffee shop opens at 5am, they say that. They never say 29.

If a bar stays open UNTIL 5am, they say 29.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#78
post #27

A good way to know whether a month has 31 days is by counting the knuckles and gaps between knuckles. "Landing" on a knuckle means that month is 31 days. So, Pointer finger knuckle = January = 31 days Between pointer/middle = Feb != 31 days Middle finger knuckle = March = 31 days And so on, just looping back to the first knuckle when you get past the pinky knuckle.

I feel like the poor (probably knuckleless) alien would definitely be sobbing at that :)

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#79

>"YOUR CALENDAR IS BASED ON A RELIGIOUS LEADER THAT NOT EVERYONE BELIEVES IN?" Instead of taking the opportunity to make a holier-than-thou twitter rant the would-be probee would do better to reply to this by explaining that almost every religion and many cultures have one or more of their own.

Yes, and for some theirs is the main one. It's now year 2565 BE in Thailand, you won't really see "2022" that much outside of strictly tourist-oriented references. Use a Thai VPN when googling and that's the date you will see in search result listings.

I believe the next version of ISO 8601 is expected to support different calendar & time systems.

Re: Someday aliens will land and all will be fine until we explain our calendar

#80
post #44
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First recorded instance of spaghetti code?

Exactly what I was thinking! It'd be interesting to see this as a git log (maybe with different branches for different cultures)

That would be quite fun to setup - especially all the patches to the leap year setup heh. Could even make bug reports “Christmas is happening in March what is going on”
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