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Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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No it does not. Give it to me for 5’ and I will find at least 10 things that are broken. Energy management, monitor color profiles, external monitors, discrete gpu / integrated switching, Bluetooth, webcam settings all these are broken. Stop defending the state of Linux in personal computing. The best we can do is to put it in a VM and run it in a OS that has actual hardware support.

My gf windows laptop takes 25 min to be usable at boot time, same laptop runs well from a live fedora running from an sdcard.

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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No luck with touch screen in Ubuntu so far. It's a combination of the touch screen but not wanting the on-screen keyboard to pop up every time I touch in a text entry widget. I googled all over the place and tried a bunch of things that were suggested. Fortunately I've been trying this while Windows still works on my laptop, so I'm not desperate, and can always try again at asome point.

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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In all my years I have yet to see HDMI output from a laptop to a monitor work on the first try in Ubuntu. Always need to install the proprietary drivers for that to work at all. If it can't even do that without a headache, after 10+ years of Linux use, I would call that a Linux problem, not a hardware problem. My colleagues seem to run into the same issue frequently as well. This article seems kind of ignorant. I'm g…

What Laptop is this? I never had an issue with the external outputs on any laptop I owned (and I've been running Linux since the 90s). I also don't know anyone who had these issues. The main issues I had were typically docking stations and suspend (but that has been super stable for my last 3 laptops).

Laptops with iGPUs usually work pretty well. The ones with built-in discrete graphics cards can become kind of a mess to configure. A friend had one where, if I remember correctly, he'd gotten the built-in screen working with (I think) the iGPU, but anything into the HDMI port switched it over to the dGPU, which had some of those crappy NVIDIA drivers, causing both screens to shut off or something like that. (I didn't debug it so this is just an outline of the problem).

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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No it does not. Give it to me for 5’ and I will find at least 10 things that are broken. Energy management, monitor color profiles, external monitors, discrete gpu / integrated switching, Bluetooth, webcam settings all these are broken. Stop defending the state of Linux in personal computing. The best we can do is to put it in a VM and run it in a OS that has actual hardware support.

> Stop defending the state of Linux in personal computing.

You seem to be placing the blame with the OS itself instead on the poor stance that hardware vendors have towards releasing proper drivers. It's true that the ecosystem has its own problems, but hardware not being compatible out of the box is not one of them. That's something the can be blamed fully on the vendors in my opinion.

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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To be clear, i had to wait from 1998 to 2021 before i install linux Mint on my father Laptop (now in his 70's). Since this recent move, i never receive a call that something is broken on his old laptop, and i dont need to explain to him that i dont know windows over the air, while he is stressing about printing his latest document to print and send ASAP. Thanks linux Mint.

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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post #70

Yeah, no. Maybe with old laptops, but newer laptops still have their fair share of issues. When I bought my thinkpad A485 kernels wouldn't boot without additional parameters, the graphics would freeze at times and cause a hardlock, sleep and hibernation have been fixed and broken again intermittently over several kernel versions, the wifi card's AP mode started causing segfaults in kernel 5.2 due to the driver's rewr…

Unfortunately this seems inevitable. Hardware manufacturers have to support windows or they won’t survive, so that support is going to be there day 1. Some of them have spotty support for Linux, most have none. So it falls on the community to buy the hardware and iron out the issues.

Re: Linux on the laptop works so damn well that it’s boring

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post #70

Yeah, no. Maybe with old laptops, but newer laptops still have their fair share of issues. When I bought my thinkpad A485 kernels wouldn't boot without additional parameters, the graphics would freeze at times and cause a hardlock, sleep and hibernation have been fixed and broken again intermittently over several kernel versions, the wifi card's AP mode started causing segfaults in kernel 5.2 due to the driver's rewr…

Yeah, no. My XPS13 which I bought basically when it came out works great with the pre installed Ubuntu 20.04.
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