99% of US companies with EU offices will NOT pay you anywhere close to the US level of money, IIRC the offer I received from Atlassian in Poland some years ago was not even competitive with the local market.
Polish market exploded at the start of this year since the tax changes, your anecdata is out of date.
Those tax changes are irrelevant - you can make double for the top of the local market working remote for US companies. Several percent in taxes doesn't make a difference at this point.
Polish market exploded at the start of this year since the tax changes, your anecdata is out of date.
Those tax changes are irrelevant - you can make double for the top of the local market working remote for US companies. Several percent in taxes doesn't make a difference at this point.
the only issue is that you might be liable to pay social insurance (DRV), but only if they can show that you have only one long-term client, and I’m not sure if it applies to foreign clients, especially outside the EU (but it might)
AFAIK it doesn't apply to outside-Germany clients. The freelancer is viewed as exporter and contributes to German export economy. Mind you, a freelancer has no social safety net, no pension, exorbitantly expensive health care (900+ EUR) and no unemployment benefits either.
I think that’s why the DRV might step in and force a freelancer to pay into the social security system if they have a single client. If I recall it also applies to foreign clients, but I’m not 100% sure how far it extends. It’s definitely easier to bypass the DRV if your client is not German, but not entirely waterproof as I recall.
It’s because no one is looking at this closely yet, because until recently it wasn’t popular enough to pop up on anyone’s radar. The loophole you’re talking about is alas probably tax fraud, if you are paying from multiple companies that you own to make it look like your “contractor” had multiple clients.
Definitely fraud. I have multiple clients, products and take risks etc; everything associated with a business (a small business but business nonetheless): nothing has been ever faked. Being an employee but trying to disguise it to gain benefits is simply seen as fraud but usually not enough to get caught; many do it. It has been popular, at least in NL for decades now: people invoicing eachother and moving money arou…
We are talking about companies operating outside EU. You are still set on companies operating in the same country. So a dev takes a risk, switches to a freelance mode, finds a client abroad, the client pays much better but at the cost of terminating agreement anytime, and for you it's a tax fraud? Smells like a crab bucket to me ("how unjust is it to earn that much more than me!").
Definitely fraud. I have multiple clients, products and take risks etc; everything associated with a business (a small business but business nonetheless): nothing has been ever faked. Being an employee but trying to disguise it to gain benefits is simply seen as fraud but usually not enough to get caught; many do it. It has been popular, at least in NL for decades now: people invoicing eachother and moving money arou…
We are talking about companies operating outside EU. You are still set on companies operating in the same country. So a dev takes a risk, switches to a freelance mode, finds a client abroad, the client pays much better but at the cost of terminating agreement anytime, and for you it's a tax fraud? Smells like a crab bucket to me ("how unjust is it to earn that much more than me!").
Not my rules or ideas… if you try to invoice different companies to get around defacto employee rules we have here, then it is fraud; you probably won’t get caught. It’s not fraud ‘for me’, it is for the tax office of my country and, as other people have said, also maybe for the employer side. So I play it safe to make sure it’s neither, however, that is far different from taking a contractor job for one client for a long time; that often will be flagged as defacto employee and taxed like it.
Build your resume and your Github repos and they will come. I get cold emailed with job offers for US companies once in a while. When your LinkedIn profile has keywords like "senior" and "lead" you start getting scraped.
> When your LinkedIn profile has keywords like "senior" and "lead" you start getting scraped.
And some people still say that titles don't matter.
We are talking about companies operating outside EU. You are still set on companies operating in the same country. So a dev takes a risk, switches to a freelance mode, finds a client abroad, the client pays much better but at the cost of terminating agreement anytime, and for you it's a tax fraud? Smells like a crab bucket to me ("how unjust is it to earn that much more than me!").
Not my rules or ideas… if you try to invoice different companies to get around defacto employee rules we have here, then it is fraud; you probably won’t get caught. It’s not fraud ‘for me’, it is for the tax office of my country and, as other people have said, also maybe for the employer side. So I play it safe to make sure it’s neither, however, that is far different from taking a contractor job for one client for a…
I really think you are mixing completely unrelated things together. Just a thought experiment: there is a company that has no office/contact in the EU. Is a NL-based freelancer prohibited from working for them? In other words, is the freelancer prohibited from exporting their work to the country of origin of that company or not?
You keep applying laws for companies operating in NL to any arbitrary company operating elsewhere.
To get 60k/y you don't even need to work for a US company - it'll be much easier to find something in Germany or UK because of the time zone. Heck, even Polish companies offer this kind of salaries these days (they also post salary ranges most of the time so you can check it) and they're often very remote-friendly
Heh, you probably haven't read horror stories from TeamBlind where Google Warsaw was paying like $25k/year... My guess is that the op wants to stay in Poland but work for at least $60k instead of moving to Germany/UK where 60k is a poverty line.
60k/yr (USD) - you can find this type of remote positions easily in Europe. Germany/Poland/Switzerland. Currently, this is typical average for contractors for these regions. But real experienced developers (by skill not years of service) currently can make a 100k+ USD on the European market.