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Re: Move The Web Forward

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post #10

Interesting that the words "Microsoft" or "Explorer" don't even appear on the whole page. Whatever your opinion on either, ignoring their existence completely is not going help "move the web forward".

There are a couple of links to Microsoft's stuff: a link to IE's dev blog via "IE Blog - updates for IE", a link to @IE twitter account (which has the word "Explorer" in there actually) and a link to "Help IE" to file bug reports.

Cheers!

Re: Move The Web Forward

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post #10

Interesting that the words "Microsoft" or "Explorer" don't even appear on the whole page. Whatever your opinion on either, ignoring their existence completely is not going help "move the web forward".

Hm, maybe we're not reading the same thing but:

Under 'How do I keep up with what’s landing in browsers?' it says 'IE Blog - Updates for IE'

Under 'Follow them on Twitter' they provide the Twitter handle for the Internet Explorer dev team.

There are a couple more instances but they're clearly not excluding IE.

Re: Move The Web Forward

#14
post #9

I'm all for this. Especially teaching others. I recently befriended someone from HN who's been asking how to code in HTML and CSS. I directed to my github account and have been writing little tutorials to answer his questions over email. It really helps you get a better understanding of your own skills when you teach it to others. I'd also much prefer someone ask me directly than reading some tutorials online. There…

Other ways to move the web forward: stop supporting Internet Explorer altogether...when you start having to support Trident then it's almost like having to code a site twice Really? I've been pretty happy with IE9, generally 98% of my code works perfectly, it's just a matter of drop shadows, rounded corners, etc that don't work. I honestly want to know what breaks so horribly that it's like coding a site twice. My me…

IE9 is great, if you're still developing websites from 2-3 years ago. I wish it had been available back then. For today's sites, you need IE 11, most likely. Of course, it will be outdated by the time it's available too.

The one promising thing is that the IE development team now seems to be really intent on supporting open standards and being compatible, and they're catching up faster than they used to. They should reach parity within another major release or three.

Re: Move The Web Forward

#15

Move the Web Forward. Prior to that, remove the layouting bugs (horizontal scrolling, after scrolling to bottom and then back to top). Be a good role model

Maybe its a first draft but the colour schema could also use some rework.

Re: Move The Web Forward

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If these sorts of ultra-long-single-page-with-fixed-element-jump-point web pages are 'forward' for the web, I don't really want to help move it there.

Couldn't agree more. The design motif gives me the impression of a manifesto, with a call to arms. In spite of the actual content.

Re: Move The Web Forward

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other ways to move the web forward: stop supporting Internet Explorer altogether...when you start having to support Trident then it's almost like having to code a site twice Really? I've been pretty happy with IE9, generally 98% of my code works perfectly, it's just a matter of drop shadows, rounded corners, etc that don't work. I honestly want to know what breaks so horribly that it's like coding a site twice. My me…

IE9 is great, if you're still developing websites from 2-3 years ago. I wish it had been available back then. For today's sites, you need IE 11, most likely. Of course, it will be outdated by the time it's available too. The one promising thing is that the IE development team now seems to be really intent on supporting open standards and being compatible, and they're catching up faster than they used to. They should…

IE9 is great, if you're still developing websites from 2-3 years ago. I wish it had been available back then. For today's sites, you need IE 11, most likely.

Can you elaborate? What IE11-specific features do current web site require? I'd like to find out what I've been neglecting...

Re: Move The Web Forward

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If these sorts of ultra-long-single-page-with-fixed-element-jump-point web pages are 'forward' for the web, I don't really want to help move it there.

Couldn't agree more. The design motif gives me the impression of a manifesto, with a call to arms. In spite of the actual content.

It is actually a call to arms, to get web developers be actively involved in making the web better.

Re: Move The Web Forward

#20
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IE9 is great, if you're still developing websites from 2-3 years ago. I wish it had been available back then. For today's sites, you need IE 11, most likely. Of course, it will be outdated by the time it's available too. The one promising thing is that the IE development team now seems to be really intent on supporting open standards and being compatible, and they're catching up faster than they used to. They should…

IE9 is great, if you're still developing websites from 2-3 years ago. I wish it had been available back then. For today's sites, you need IE 11, most likely. Can you elaborate? What IE11-specific features do current web site require? I'd like to find out what I've been neglecting...

See http://caniuse.com for specific features. IE9 isn't awful and IE10 will be better, but IE10, which will be released next year, is anticipated to have less support across the board than other browsers have today. That imposes a drag on use of new features, because of the need to backfill with js-based emulation or to provide alternate implementation of features that don't depend on tech IE can't handle.
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