More for the role: full-stack has you doing multiple roles, but is not compensated as such. You're even removing the communication overhead if the role had been split in two. It seems to me as a business move to compress roles and pay you less for double the capability in exchange for varied work. I don't think people should just accept lower comp just because they prefer varied work.
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#12Here’s something I think a lot of people don’t think on: 40 years old is mid-career. If you expect to retire at 60 (likely 65 these days) and you start working at 20: 40 is smack dab in the middle of your career. I think that notion gets lost when we talk about ageism in tech and then people talk about 40-somethings.
40s or 50s are still prime time for programmers, assuming he/she keeps learning and coding and designing. but those are still of small group, it's like a normal distribution, I read somewhere age wise there are only about 1.5% that are above 50s.
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#13I wonder where the genesis is of this idea that programming is young person's game akin to physical sports where speed, explosiveness and endurance matter. It seems to me that it's an intellectual activity where one should go on for very long honing their skills and becoming better and better at it with age. Maybe the industry sidelines the older more experienced technical folks at a cost, and that's why there seems…
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#14Here’s something I think a lot of people don’t think on: 40 years old is mid-career. If you expect to retire at 60 (likely 65 these days) and you start working at 20: 40 is smack dab in the middle of your career. I think that notion gets lost when we talk about ageism in tech and then people talk about 40-somethings.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Limiting a software engineers career to less than 20 years is a pretty fucking idiotic thing to do.
Sure. Ageism, sexism, racism, etc, etc, etc, are all fucking idiotic. And yet surprisingly popular. So we have to deal with them.
Of course you're not going to hire a woman if you could hire a man - they might get pregnant and be away from work for a long time.
Of course you're not going hire an older employee that knows their worth over a recent graduate that isn't familiar with the salary they should earn. You can rip them off much more easily.
People can be cunts but still act with some rational motivation. That's why we have protected categories, to make sure that that isn't a strategy worth pursuing.
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#16I wonder where the genesis is of this idea that programming is young person's game akin to physical sports where speed, explosiveness and endurance matter. It seems to me that it's an intellectual activity where one should go on for very long honing their skills and becoming better and better at it with age. Maybe the industry sidelines the older more experienced technical folks at a cost, and that's why there seems…
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#17Add 13 years, and I could have written this. I must admit I cringed a bit when the author said 40 was old. I still love what I do, and I have no desire to live the manager life of all day meetings.
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#19I wonder where the genesis is of this idea that programming is young person's game akin to physical sports where speed, explosiveness and endurance matter. It seems to me that it's an intellectual activity where one should go on for very long honing their skills and becoming better and better at it with age. Maybe the industry sidelines the older more experienced technical folks at a cost, and that's why there seems…
Obviously, outcoding everybody else is sometimes considered as a value and other times it is not. Shrug.
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#20Add 13 years, and I could have written this. I must admit I cringed a bit when the author said 40 was old. I still love what I do, and I have no desire to live the manager life of all day meetings.