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Ask HN: I love to be alone. But this loneliness is killing me

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Re: Ask HN: I love to be alone. But this loneliness is killing me

#101
What you're describing is a classic introvert's tendency for hermitage. That is to say, it's easy to be forever alone.

Easiest thing in the world. Bloody lonely though.

There's no easy fix: you have to learn to be social. CBT group therapy would be my reflexive suggestion but I'd wager one-on-one would still have value.

It takes some serious bravery and will power on your part, but it doesn't even have to be formal therapy. There are many groups for adults whose main function is extra-professional socialisation. Therapy is a safe space though, so a good diving board into better outlets.

Best of luck.

Re: Ask HN: I love to be alone. But this loneliness is killing me

#103
I'm an introvert. I gain energy from being along; I lose energy from being around people. I need to be alone a large amount of the time. I need people to leave me alone so that I can hear myself think.

But I can't be completely alone. I need human connection as well. I need moments when I connect with someone. I need moments when people really see me, hear me, understand at least pieces of me.

Some moments I can't get either one. I'm with people, but I'm not connecting in any real way. Business meetings are often (not always!) like this.

Maybe that fits you, too. Maybe you've been so busy creating space for yourself that you made a world where you don't have any real contact, and now you find that you need it. I think we all do, even the introverts.

So find a few people that you can connect with. At work, at a gym, at a community theater, at church, at a volunteer soup kitchen. Don't expect any one person to fill all the need for connection - you need a variety, and one person can't carry that weight.

For me, my wife is the biggest one, but I also have others.

Re: Ask HN: I love to be alone. But this loneliness is killing me

#104
Learn to play an instrument and start/join a band. Get a dog which needs lots of walks. Make (or buy but that's boring) a bow and start shooting, join a club. Basically find yourself some activity which you can do alone among people. Where there's people there's a chance of meeting someone who fills those gaps in your life.

About that "intellectual loneliness" bit I'd pose that a healthy mix of mental and physical - i.e. "dumb", but not really - work is the best way to keep both parts of yourself healthy and sane. I bought a 17th century farm and have been restoring it ever since, I cook on a wood-burning stove and heat the house with wood alone, getting firewood from the forest is a few weeks worth of "dumb" - but not really - work a year. Not everyone will be in the position to get a farm but there are plenty of other "down-to-earth, physical" things you can pick up, things which give some payoff - vegetables, firewood, fish, whatever.

Re: Ask HN: I love to be alone. But this loneliness is killing me

#105
I don't know why nobody has brought this up yet... while you embark on the journey of finding a good therapist that you can work with, if you are not opposed to the idea, adopt a small pet, dog maybe. A pet has great potential to enrich your life in many ways while still giving you plenty of "me/alone" time. Hopefully that will help you ride out some rough patches without feeling too lonely. If you do go down that path, do your research before hand on what it entails to have a pet.

Re: Ask HN: I love to be alone. But this loneliness is killing me

#106

I find refuge and solace in reading books written by those I consider my intellectual peers. Preferably older books as I believe standards have since dropped precipitously. There have been sufficient intelligent people who have written a sufficient number of books that I expect to be able keep my curiosity satiated for many decades. It would be near impossible for me to meet such people in day to day life. As I found…

Could you indicate some such books you have read or been reading. Would be helpful.

I think it's pretty individual. I'm currently reading 30 year old medical books on Psychoneuroimmunology (PNI) by Jay A. Goldstein. I've been comparing it to current long covid research to get an idea on where progress has and hasn't been made. It has been enlightening to see how much of what is considered new today was known back then.

Re: Ask HN: I love to be alone. But this loneliness is killing me

#107
Hi. I'm 39.

I feel the same way. Whenever I plan for activities, I plan to do them alone. Even my equipment reflects that. I bought a kayak instead of a boat. I took the foot pegs off my motorcycle, which I ride alone. I'm thinking of building a small cabin to live in. I go on poker trips alone. I moved to Costa Rica alone. I did remote work with no pairing.

I don't feel too lonely, but I do occasionally. It comes in waves. Don't get me wrong, though, I get out to a lot of events. I spend the majority of my days totally alone with my dog, but I spend many days around lots of people (I own a homestead, and a bar--two wildly different atmospheres).

That keeps me...whatever. Sane, okay, socially fulfilled.

People like me, I could be more social. But this is my level, I don't know. If I add to it, my life feels worse.

I do want to say that I really enjoy my life. It's not normal in many ways, but I'm actually quite happy. But it wasn't always. I've been very lonely in the past, living in this same place. I think a big realization was realizing that this is normal. This is the human experience. Loneliness is part of our programming. We're intended to live together. Those of us who choose to go alone are going to have to battle emotions and situations like this. And it's okay. I usually acknowledge it and then go do whatever the fuck I want to do, because I don't have anyone to answer to. And because I chose it, and continue to choose it.

My advice is to embrace it, and be your own best friend. Or abandon it, and go find your people.

Re: Ask HN: I love to be alone. But this loneliness is killing me

#109
enjoying solitude is not just about being alone.

You can enjoy solitude in crowds.. like library's or sole dining or even just getting outside and wandering the streets/hills/parks etc.

Start there. feel connected without having to connect by first just observing.

I often enjoy sitting alone in a busy location just observing the people.

Re: Ask HN: I love to be alone. But this loneliness is killing me

#110

You will love others how you love yourself and conversely, how you love others is how you love yourself. I would strongly encourage you to give freely to someone what you wish to receive. Intellectual loneliness is the equivalent of I skipped leg day at the gym, not the badge of honor some make it to be. If you don't know why someone isn't intellectually on your level, unearth why. You will discover every human on th…

I was completely with you until you got to Victor Frankl. I just can’t stand what he writes. Respect what he dealt with but he sounds like a fortune cookie.

Fair. It was something that resonated with me but can see where you're coming from with your perspective. Curious if you have an author or book you'd recommend instead?
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