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Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Post by paul7986 »

willhinsa wrote: post #125
enos_feedler wrote: post #109

It's amazing just how quickly you can catch the under estimation of the internet's potential. Within the first sentence, starting with the word "imagine", the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline, rather than creating and sharing it within the internet itself. In the furthest stretches of the imagination, the prediction still falls very short. No criticism to anyone in 19…

I think Bowie's prediction for the impact of the internet was not too far off the mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaHcOs7mhfU

Napster came into existence in '99

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Post by revolvingocelot »

willhinsa wrote: post #125
enos_feedler wrote: post #109

It's amazing just how quickly you can catch the under estimation of the internet's potential. Within the first sentence, starting with the word "imagine", the largest image that could be conjured is related to viewing content created offline, rather than creating and sharing it within the internet itself. In the furthest stretches of the imagination, the prediction still falls very short. No criticism to anyone in 19…

I think Bowie's prediction for the impact of the internet was not too far off the mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaHcOs7mhfU

The parent comment is 6 minutes, but the full 15 minute interview (about more the the internet) is worth it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLf6KZmJyrA

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

peteradio wrote: post #22
desindol wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: Because of this phrase (In German „Datenautobahn“) the German digital ministry is docked to the ministry of transport…

That's amazing, I don't even care if its true.

Reminiscent of how New York transferred responsibility for the state canal system to the electric power authority because of NYSDOT mismanagement.

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Post by anthk »

mynameisash wrote: post #126
nuker wrote: post #46

I built a retro 486 PC, bought a modem and could not find any dial-up ISPs in Australia. The 19xx prefix is not dial-able using VoIP line that I set up (we don't have POTS lines anymore).

I would - unironically - love to build an 'early internet' where we could dial in (or just emulate it via an intentionally low-bandwidth, high-latency layer over home wifi). Go back to chat rooms, islands of communities centered around a particular topic.

Tildes. https://scribe.bus-hit.me/message/tilde-club-i-had-a-couple-...

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Post by Cyberdog »

mynameisash wrote: post #126
nuker wrote: post #46

I built a retro 486 PC, bought a modem and could not find any dial-up ISPs in Australia. The 19xx prefix is not dial-able using VoIP line that I set up (we don't have POTS lines anymore).

I would - unironically - love to build an 'early internet' where we could dial in (or just emulate it via an intentionally low-bandwidth, high-latency layer over home wifi). Go back to chat rooms, islands of communities centered around a particular topic.

You're in luck - here's a list of still-operative dial-up BBSes: https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/bbs/connection/dial-up/list/b...

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Post by dredmorbius »

cainxinth wrote: post #87
poszlem wrote: post #36

Kind of makes me wonder what would those people say if we played them Bo Burnham's Welcome to The Internet from 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU

As early as 2003, popular culture was catching on to the fact that the ‘information superhighway’ had some potholes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs

Issues with the Internet date to its origins ... and inventors. Paul Baran in the 1960s, amongst others, whom I've compiled here:

https://toot.cat/@dredmorbius/105074933053020193>

Sources / instances date to the 1980s or earlier, addressing specifically the false assertion by many that "nobody saw this coming".

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Post by dredmorbius »

pkdpic wrote: post #96
adrianN wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the internet today, but with more ads, more sponsored content, and more AI generated submarines.

Those submarines are going to be pretty sweet.

For those unfamiliar, not as wet as you might think: http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13993>

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Post by dredmorbius »

desindol wrote: post #8
losvedir wrote: post #2

Wow, the phrase "information superhighway" really brought me back. I hadn't heard that for quite some time!

Fun fact: Because of this phrase (In German „Datenautobahn“) the German digital ministry is docked to the ministry of transport…

I recently learned that one of the major competition regulators in Germany is called the Federal Network Agency (Bundesnetzagentur or BNetzA), which oversees electricity, gas, telecommunications, post, and railway markets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Network_Agency>

Given my own relatively recent realisation that virtually all industrial monopolies can be considered (sometimes with some mental gymnastics) as networks, this is an interesting bit of confirmation.

Re: Are You Ready for the Internet? (1994) [video]

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Post by myth_drannon »

mynameisash wrote: post #126
nuker wrote: post #46

I built a retro 486 PC, bought a modem and could not find any dial-up ISPs in Australia. The 19xx prefix is not dial-able using VoIP line that I set up (we don't have POTS lines anymore).

I would - unironically - love to build an 'early internet' where we could dial in (or just emulate it via an intentionally low-bandwidth, high-latency layer over home wifi). Go back to chat rooms, islands of communities centered around a particular topic.

There is a device you connect to your computer port and it can emulate dial up. It connects to your wifi but your computer sees it as a modem, then you type regular AT commands and instead of a number it connects to telnet BBSs.
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