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Ask HN: Ads triggered by WhatsApp “end to end encrypted” messages?
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Re: Ask HN: Ads triggered by WhatsApp “end to end encrypted” messages?
#62Just because that the messages might be sent end-to-end encrypted from Sue to Joe does not mean Meta cannot read them. Meta has control over the app Sue uses. So they could send them to Meta unencrypted in addition to sending them to Joe in an encrypted fashion. Or they just extract the relevant terms: Sue->Joe: "Hello Joe, I'm so excited! We are going to have a baby! Let's call it Dingbert. You're not the father! Ji…
More so, my wife sent me a picture of my daughter working on a puzzle. Less than 24 hours later, her Instagram was showing ads for a store that was selling the same type of puzzle as the one my daughter was playing with. So it's not just terms but images too.
She probably gave Instagram access to her photo library (not unreasonable for a photo sharing app). That means the Instagram app can scan her latest pictures in the background when it's opened. I think it's more likely that the data was leaked this way.
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#63Most users activate WhatsApp's suggested "backup" feature which uploads all chats and those are most likely not E2E encrypted. And of course Meta could just directly read and upload stuff from the app, they probably buried a vague clause for that somewhere in their agreement.
They are E2E encrypted now in recent versions.
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#64"WhatsApp's end-to-end encryption is used when you chat with another person using WhatsApp Messenger. End-to-end encryption ensures only you and the person you're communicating with can read or listen to what is sent, and nobody in between, not even WhatsApp"
This has always been disingenious.
WhatsApp control the client, the client displays the unencrypted message, ergo WhatsApp can read the message.
It provably does when it interprets links and does a web page preview card.
Also... that is highly likely leaking your advert profile as even if the preview didn't then any visit to the website is outside of WhatsApp and is now tied to your IP, browser cookies, etc.
All of the above can be true without end-to-end encryption being broken or otherwise defeated on the server side.
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#65Just because that the messages might be sent end-to-end encrypted from Sue to Joe does not mean Meta cannot read them. Meta has control over the app Sue uses. So they could send them to Meta unencrypted in addition to sending them to Joe in an encrypted fashion. Or they just extract the relevant terms: Sue->Joe: "Hello Joe, I'm so excited! We are going to have a baby! Let's call it Dingbert. You're not the father! Ji…
More so, my wife sent me a picture of my daughter working on a puzzle. Less than 24 hours later, her Instagram was showing ads for a store that was selling the same type of puzzle as the one my daughter was playing with. So it's not just terms but images too.
Back when deep learning was first hitting "mainstream" for object recognition in images, I recall reading that Facebook was using it to look for brand logos and other signs of using a particular product, in your uploaded photos.
Turns out they were also building a database of everyone's face so they could build shadow profiles...
Re: Ask HN: Ads triggered by WhatsApp “end to end encrypted” messages?
#66LOL no need for elaborate MITM efforts if both endpoints are completely closed source and totally powned and corrupted.
Of course that reads backwards just as well, no need to implement complicated "end to end encryption" if both endpoints are hopelessly powned.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
More so, my wife sent me a picture of my daughter working on a puzzle. Less than 24 hours later, her Instagram was showing ads for a store that was selling the same type of puzzle as the one my daughter was playing with. So it's not just terms but images too.
She probably gave Instagram access to her photo library (not unreasonable for a photo sharing app). That means the Instagram app can scan her latest pictures in the background when it's opened. I think it's more likely that the data was leaked this way.
Glad I deleted my Meta apps and only use online FB when I need to.
The other day I noticed the yahoo mail app on iOS was reading my clipboard for no reason. I’m going to start blocking photos on most of my apps.
Re: Ask HN: Ads triggered by WhatsApp “end to end encrypted” messages?
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
She probably gave Instagram access to her photo library (not unreasonable for a photo sharing app). That means the Instagram app can scan her latest pictures in the background when it's opened. I think it's more likely that the data was leaked this way.
Glad I deleted my Meta apps and only use online FB when I need to. The other day I noticed the yahoo mail app on iOS was reading my clipboard for no reason. I’m going to start blocking photos on most of my apps.
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Re: Ask HN: Ads triggered by WhatsApp “end to end encrypted” messages?
#69Ok, so you have the data now. You seem to be a person who cares about privacy, so why do you still have a WhatsApp account?
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#70I’ve seen this with telegram on iPhone. A few weeks ago I had a drastic argument with a female friend on telegram and immediately Instagram (meta) started showing me breakup memes and Rumi quotes. There were other recent examples. I don’t know what to make of it.