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Apache Shenyu Project Graduates

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Re: Apache Shenyu Project Graduates

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random314 wrote: post #10
bcatanzaro wrote: post #3

What does “ShenYu is to promote the traditional virtues of our Chinese civilisation” mean to Apache?

Shen yun is a reference to traditional Chinese history that has been erased by the CCP. Its typically promoted by the persecuted Falun Gong community (vilified by CCP when they became popular - Now it is the turn of the Uyghurs). They do have a propensity to not disclose their political affiliations and attach the name to entertainment shows and now an Apache project. But it is an anti CCP stance.

Shen Yu (禹) is not Shen Yun (韻)...

Re: Apache Shenyu Project Graduates

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bcatanzaro wrote: post #3

What does “ShenYu is to promote the traditional virtues of our Chinese civilisation” mean to Apache?

Isn't that pretty clearly described in the first section of the readme? It introduces imporant Chinese cultural elements to a western audience. Shen Yu was a monarch who worked for the benefit of the people. The idea that a ruler should work for the benefit of the people (instead of e.g. medieval European ideas of a monarch having been granted legitimacy by God, with no obligation do anything for the people) is a long-standing Chinese value and philosophical view that continues to this day.

Re: Apache Shenyu Project Graduates

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Post by bcatanzaro »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #13
bcatanzaro wrote: post #3

What does “ShenYu is to promote the traditional virtues of our Chinese civilisation” mean to Apache?

Isn't that pretty clearly described in the first section of the readme? It introduces imporant Chinese cultural elements to a western audience. Shen Yu was a monarch who worked for the benefit of the people. The idea that a ruler should work for the benefit of the people (instead of e.g. medieval European ideas of a monarch having been granted legitimacy by God, with no obligation do anything for the people) is a lon…

I don’t think it’s obvious. European culture has been dominated for 2000 years by the teachings of Jesus, who said: “Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.

But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;

And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant.”

The idea that rulers should serve their people is not unique to any civilization.

But my question is actually about the Apache Software Foundation: why would they be invested in long-standing values of Chinese civilization?

Re: Apache Shenyu Project Graduates

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Post by brunoborges »

bcatanzaro wrote: post #14
FooBarWidget wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that pretty clearly described in the first section of the readme? It introduces imporant Chinese cultural elements to a western audience. Shen Yu was a monarch who worked for the benefit of the people. The idea that a ruler should work for the benefit of the people (instead of e.g. medieval European ideas of a monarch having been granted legitimacy by God, with no obligation do anything for the people) is a lon…

I don’t think it’s obvious. European culture has been dominated for 2000 years by the teachings of Jesus, who said: “Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant.” The idea that r…

> But my question is actually about the Apache Software Foundation: why would they be invested in long-standing values of Chinese civilization?

It's just a project name. And the name was not chosen by ASF, rather accepted by them as per their terms:

https://infra.apache.org/project-names.html

Re: Apache Shenyu Project Graduates

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Post by chillfox »

bcatanzaro wrote: post #14
FooBarWidget wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that pretty clearly described in the first section of the readme? It introduces imporant Chinese cultural elements to a western audience. Shen Yu was a monarch who worked for the benefit of the people. The idea that a ruler should work for the benefit of the people (instead of e.g. medieval European ideas of a monarch having been granted legitimacy by God, with no obligation do anything for the people) is a lon…

I don’t think it’s obvious. European culture has been dominated for 2000 years by the teachings of Jesus, who said: “Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant.” The idea that r…

Presumably because organisations are just groups of people and in this case a bunch of Chinese people contributed to the code. The top contributor is located in Beijing according to their GitHub profile.
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