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Re: Betterbird: a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird

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Post by BeefWellington »

jerbearito wrote: post #53
senko wrote: post #40

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If this is the worst, this speaks a lot more about the Thunderbird project leaders than about this person. I read this as a thoughtful, passionate, plea for project (governance) improvements. You can certainly disagree with him (I don't enough much about the project to judge either way, although his arguments ring true to my general software development instincts), but he was not attacking anyone or being a jerk.

No, not the worst, and not even relevant. This stuff happened in 2020, but that person linked to a message from a few months ago.

Hence the phrasing "Something like this communication" -- it's an example of how this person communicates.

Re: Betterbird: a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird

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Post by Semaphor »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #217
Semaphor wrote: post #173

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That describes my issue exactly. I guess the problem is upstream, then.

Try vacuuming your sqlites and compacting the mailbox. Should be done once a year at least. Will also free disk space. Still on spinning rust? Defrag.

That wouldn’t help, it was literally a fresh installation with that issue. And on an NVMe SSD.

Re: Betterbird: a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird

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Post by dang »

jonp888 wrote: post #102
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #98

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You can't post personal attacks like this to HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. We ban accounts that do it, so please don't.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Re: Betterbird: a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird

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Post by dang »

p4bl0 wrote: post #137
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #120

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Please don't get sucked into this sort of tit-for-tat flamewar on HN. It's badly against the site guidelines, it's extremely tedious for everyone else, and we ban accounts that do it repeatedly.

What to do instead: walk away. If you're not engaged in curious conversation (which this certainly was not), then the one who walks away first 'wins'.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Betterbird: a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird

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Post by dang »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #216
p4bl0 wrote: post #137

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Please don't get sucked into this sort of tit-for-tat flamewar on HN. It's badly against the site guidelines, it's extremely tedious for everyone else, and we ban accounts that do it repeatedly.

What to do instead: walk away. If you're not engaged in curious conversation (which this certainly was not), then the one who walks away first 'wins'.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Betterbird: a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird

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Post by p4bl0 »

dang wrote: post #234
p4bl0 wrote: post #137

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Please don't get sucked into this sort of tit-for-tat flamewar on HN. It's badly against the site guidelines, it's extremely tedious for everyone else, and we ban accounts that do it repeatedly. What to do instead: walk away. If you're not engaged in curious conversation (which this certainly was not), then the one who walks away first 'wins'. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines…

Okay dang, sorry. I must admit it's quite painful, as respecting these guidelines amounts to letting those who do not respect them have the last word, at least during the time when the story's got the more attention (because in the end we can hope their post will get flagged enough and be dead), but I also understand your point as a moderator here. I'll try my best not to get sucked into this sort of "conversation" again.

Re: Betterbird: a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird

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Post by mixmastamyk »

Semaphor wrote: post #232
mixmastamyk wrote: post #217

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Try vacuuming your sqlites and compacting the mailbox. Should be done once a year at least. Will also free disk space. Still on spinning rust? Defrag.

That wouldn’t help, it was literally a fresh installation with that issue. And on an NVMe SSD.

Never experienced a TB slowdown that wasn’t due to a storage issue. I’d look at extensions or network/server issues next.

Re: Betterbird: a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird

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Post by cbtacy »

fastball wrote: post #162
cbtacy wrote: post #39

In all seriousness... given what I've gone through with the behavior of many Mozilla devs, it's hard to wrap my head around what it would take to be "banned for life." That organization's tolerance for poor, unprofessional, and often abusive behavior from devs is extraordinarily high.

Perhaps the poor behavior you've experienced in the past at least aligned politically with the org?

No. And your bias is showing.
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