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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Post by apecat »

motherfscker wrote: post #714
apecat wrote: post #700

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Was looking for a good place to post this in the thread but I'll just drop it here. Microsoft Teams still lacks multi-account support on desktop. As in, you can't sign on to several business organizations like you can in Slack. It's so dumb and disqualifying. Utter nightmare if you work with several organizations. https://feedbackportal.microsoft.com/feedback/idea/c9995dc8-... I've bookmarked that page and I check in…

The fun part is that this functionality already has been added to teams (for over a year now), it’s just disabled and hidden by default. Might be worth enabling it if you use multiple orgs. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams/track...

Intriguing. Doesn't seem to work on macOS tho.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Post by maxerickson »

prepend wrote: post #645
maxerickson wrote: post #196

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SharePoint gives you versioned file storage that searches inside of files. It's a big step up from a network drive or whatever. (and that's just the really basic out of the box usage)

I find Shareapoint versioning pretty terrible in that it versions every change and doesn’t let me do tags or releases. So with office auto save I’ll have 700 versions of a file as people changed one sentence a minute for a few hours. I actually prefer a network drive over SharePoint because there are fewer lock and sync issues. Especially compared to Dropbox or Google Drive (or even OneDrive) it’s so hard to use for…

If you turn on minor versions there is a publish function, which is close enough to a release.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Post by [deleted] »

nailer wrote: post #424
ajot wrote: post #284

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Although a smartphone is a computer (and a pretty powerful one while we are at it), I see it as a communication device. It's main purpose for me is to chat and talk with other people, so I want the modem working as much as it can, or I could miss a call from my granma. Even though I can watch videos (and you could say broadcasting/streaming is a form of communication, just a simplex one) or browse the Web[0], I ident…

How do you handle incoming calls if you’re not running?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Post by jknoepfler »

vel0city wrote: post #638
ajot wrote: post #284

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Although a smartphone is a computer (and a pretty powerful one while we are at it), I see it as a communication device. It's main purpose for me is to chat and talk with other people, so I want the modem working as much as it can, or I could miss a call from my granma. Even though I can watch videos (and you could say broadcasting/streaming is a form of communication, just a simplex one) or browse the Web[0], I ident…

With Teams, my laptop is also my phone. Really, my old DID for my desk phone is now my Teams number. Same thing with Signal. I routinely take/place calls with friends and family through the desktop client. If I'm on my computer and I've got my computer headset on, I might as well take the call on the computer instead of taking off the headset and using yet another device. As my computer is a general purpose device, o…

And as such, it should serve as a communication device when and only when I want it to.

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Post by BuckRogers »

oneplane wrote: post #695
BuckRogers wrote: post #176

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I use OneDrive as my cloud storage provider. To me cloud storage from the top-tier vendors seem to work well enough at this point. I probably would’ve used Google Drive, but once I learned they take it out of your Gmail storage space I declined. To Microsoft’s credit, your OneDrive storage space does not come out of your app Outlook email storage.

Yeah, they are all pretty similar. The storage usage is probably due to Google's gigantic user base, or perhaps due to their tenancy model (i.e. you get a 'google account' that also contains 'storage' instead of the other way around). While some features like versioning and sharing and mail integration vary, nearly all of the 'big' ones do the same thing (OneDrive, iCloud, Google Drive, Dropbox, even box.com and MEGA…

I do still keep my Dropbox because it has better sharing features. But I only use that with my wife and we haven’t used it to collaborate since she finished her Masters degree. If anyone has the edge with features, it probably is them. Some of the lesser known names I have accounts worth as well, but they’ve had sketchier history with storage issues. OneDrive simply gave me the most space for free, and I usually pimp myself out to the highest bidder.

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Post by skinnymuch »

agumonkey wrote: post #721
nullcontext wrote: post #527

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And why Friendster didn't and how FB kneecapped and murdered MySpace in a back alley and got away with it.

I think facebook's main "revolution" is that it was the first internet as real society platform. Others were websites to make profiles, myspace added artists, but facebook was all about the "real you". It was just ripe for when internet became a plausible soil for society.

MySpace added artists after it lost to FB and itself.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Post by jiggawatts »

AndrewVos wrote: post #715
jiggawatts wrote: post #613

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Just put your web app in a container and call it a day? App Service can run containerised workloads just fine.

I would love to get this done quick. Do you have a link to something usable?

This depends almost entirely on what exactly you are hosting. Is it a Node.js app? ASP.NET? Windows? Linux?

In Visual Studio it is more-or-less as simple as right-clicking a project and selecting "Add -> Docker support": https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/architecture/contai...

In Azure DevOps pipelines or GitHub Actions, it's also quite simple to add a container build step: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/devops/pipelines/eco...

In the actual Azure subscription you just need to create an Azure Container Registry resource to host the image. I believe you can also use Docker Hub, if you prefer.

Then in App Service just host the container image instead of the raw code: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/app-service/tutorial...

That should be about it. The effect of this is to "zip up" your loose 'js' files (or whatever), making deployments much faster. The build happens before this step, so the container image is "final" and will run directly without needing any npm steps or whatever at deployment time.

If you need something like hot-reload or similar very fast deployment times, then App Service is probably not the right environment for you. However, with containers its often possible to have a fast local deployment edit-build-test loop and then have the same environment running in production. This is the main benefit of containers!

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Post by FridgeSeal »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #738
hooby wrote: post #593

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- sends you a notification about a meeting starting, with a join button. when you hover your mouse over the join button, the notification disappears. the meeting is nowhere to be found. you have to got to outlook calendar and join the meeting from there - sometimes the same meeting ends up existing twice with the same name, with half the participants in here, the other half back there - when your internet is bad, you…

- Difficult to permanently delete entire chat history - Odd behavior when using smartphone and desktop app at the same time - sometimes calls accepted on desktop are still ringing on mobile. - Slow scroll back to history in chat. - Message-Image size (height) limit is small - Message length maximum is far too small

- When sharing a whole screen or a window, the teams application is forcibly minimised, regardless of whether teams in on that display or not.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Post by vel0city »

jknoepfler wrote: post #744
vel0city wrote: post #638

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With Teams, my laptop is also my phone. Really, my old DID for my desk phone is now my Teams number. Same thing with Signal. I routinely take/place calls with friends and family through the desktop client. If I'm on my computer and I've got my computer headset on, I might as well take the call on the computer instead of taking off the headset and using yet another device. As my computer is a general purpose device, o…

And as such, it should serve as a communication device when and only when I want it to.

So I take it you turn the modem off on your phone unless you're about to make a call?

Or do you leave it connected for long stretches of time to be ready to take an incoming call?

If you had a desk phone did you unplug it until you were going to make a call?

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Post by pas »

colordrops wrote: post #174
akira2501 wrote: post #151

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IIRC the other major problem was that Orkut was invite-only for a very long time. That's partly was it was so popular in a few South American countries, it was very difficult to get yourself on the platform, and even if you did, it was difficult to use it to communicate with anyone locally. Google was not the giant then that it is now.

Google has had more than one product that I've been excited to use but was invite only, and then only got the invite after interest had died both for the public and myself. Ones I can remember are Orkut, Wave, and Ingress.

Inbox? or do you mean the game Ingress?
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