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Re: American Data Privacy and Protection Act

#161

The ADPPA seems like a great example of regulatory capture and gridlock of the federal government by rich corporations and individuals and how federalism (state's rights) is a crucial and increasingly fragile element in holding our economy and our society together. Privacy is a particularly fraught area. SCOTUS says it's not a constitutional right at all (unless it's your money, in which case it's speech), which mean…

( typo : i think you meant "not only data privacy..." )

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You can also see which companies sent lobbyists to work on this bill. https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/bills/summary?c...

There's been some good reporting on the lobbying on ADPPA What Microsoft, IBM and others won as the privacy bill evolved - https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/policy/cloud-enterprise... Privacy bill triggers lobbying surge by data brokers - Privacy bill triggers lobbying surge by data brokers

Microsoft has been a particularly bad actor in this space. They have been hiring lobbyists to advocate at the state level for shitty "consumer privacy bills", specifically because they want to forestall and kneecap federal legislation.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/tech-lobbyists-are-pus...

Re: American Data Privacy and Protection Act

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post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Literally none of those things are real as actually described in the novel. Keeping a diary is punishable by death (that's the premise of the entire story), it's kind of silly to compare that with our lives today.

1984 was published in 1949. It is partially science fiction . Tricorders are not literally the same as cell phones, either, but if you ignore the parrelels you are doing a disservice to the important role and lessons of good sci-fi. The thing I tell most people is that we currently live under more surveillance then folks in 1984. "You had to live—did live, from habit that became instinct—in the assumption that every…

I couldn’t disagree more strongly; the fact that you can write this and not worry for the rest of your life about being killed is the whole point.

I urge you to reread 1984, and focus on how people who broke the rules were treated. People weren’t deplatformed or cancelled, they were murdered.

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I mean, at our company, GDPR requests have to cost at least $50 a pop. It goes to a human team to review and process with a dedicated legal representative.

Not my problem. You're the one collecting the data. You pay for the costs. Can't afford to collect my data? Go out of business then.

It's your problem until there's a law saying otherwise.

Re: American Data Privacy and Protection Act

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post #131
post #48

It's not clear that ADPPA will move forward. The current version preempts California's CCPA/CPRA legislation, and (big surprise) California doesn't like that. But, that's far from the only issue with it. Here's an update from a couple of weeks ago which discusses some of the problems, as well as potential next steps. https://thenexusofprivacy.net/adppa-new-compromise/ And, here's EFF's position: " Americans Deserve M…

Preemption would be an enormous mistake. Federal legislation moves at a glacial pace. In a field like privacy, you may only get to pass one substantial bill every 10 or 15 years. Technology moves too quickly for lawmakers at the Federal level to keep up. States can move much faster. Justice Brandeis popularized the phrase that "[the] states are the laboratories of democracy" and digital privacy law is a text book cas…

This is exactly why Microsoft has been throwing money at lobbyists at the state level as well, pushing shitty "consumer privacy bills", both because they don't like strong legal privacy rights at the state level, but also in the hopes of forestalling and kneecapping a strong federal baseline privacy bill.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/tech-lobbyists-are-pus...

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> Privacy request shouldn't enable mechanisms of denial of service type attacks against companies. How would this even happen? I genuinely don't understand what you mean.

When GDPR was new, several people sent "nightmare letters", deliberately and publicly designed to cause as much cost and hassle as possible. To my knowledge, no one was punished or even inconvenienced for blatantly abusing the law in this way. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gdpr+nightmare+letters

The "nightmare GDPR letter" is trivial to deal with: https://jacquesmattheij.com/so-your-start-up-receive-the-nig...

Re: American Data Privacy and Protection Act

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post #50

Now if we could just get a bill that actually limited the governments ability to collect data on its citizens. I'm not really worried about targeted ads, I'm worried about targeted assassinations. You talk to people and ask them why they are worried about companies collecting data, and a certain percentage will tell you they don't like that the government could get it with a court order. That'd be a HUGE improvement…

A lot of the time they just buy it from data brokers.

Re: American Data Privacy and Protection Act

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post #21

Can't read legalese much, and -judging by how these things tend to go- I bet it's butchered beyond recognition before it gets to a vote (if at all). Instead, we should consider a constitutional amendment that enshrines digital privacy as a fundamental human right.

we don't even have food and shelter as a human right
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