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Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp

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Iran is geographically two countries away from Israel, the country that clandestinely fomented similar riots/insurrections in 10+ other countries that border Israel during the Arab Spring. Furthermore, Israel has been greatly outspoken in its hatred of Iran and Iran's nuclear program, going so far as to deploy the most sophisticated cyberattack in history[1]. It would hardly be a conspiracy theory to pin this on Isra…

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Or, you know, provide and expect evidence, rather than conspiracy?

Try to improve the situation by providing some real data as to why _this_, or some other event, IS being driven by Mossad/CIA/whoever, rather than just throwing snark into an online chat.

The world doesn't benefit from people just throwing shit at each other. If you have evidence, educate the world. If you don't, useful actions would be to _look_ for evidence, not just promote antagonism.

Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp

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Building a resilient p2p service on the internet doesn't just require not using big name SaaS, it means building that service to not need the WebCAs or even DNS, two core services that are anything but p2p. I honestly don't know of any applications that require neither.

Jami and Tox should mostly qualify, I believe. The hard part is bootstrapping the discovery network, I don't know if there is a true p2p way for that.

You have to make a connection to something to get anywhere, that's how the net works

Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp

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Which mesh networking app works on iOs? Bridgefy was never able to find my Android device and vice-versa.

Does anything like Briar/Bridgefy exist for Linux? Something that relays messages/packets through a pure P2P meshnet using any connection available (ethernet, wifi, bluetooth), without any intermediate, special purpose routing hardware?

Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp

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I'm an Iranian living in Italy and have an Italian phone/WhatsApp number. Couldn't call anyone or receive WhatsApp calls to/from Iranian and non-Iranian numbers yesterday afternoon when the internet blocking started in Iran. It was like all numbers somehow in touch with Iranian contacts were blocked from completing calls. As soon as either side of the call would answer, the call would end with a message like you are…

How is it possible for two non-Iranians (in a geographic/telecom sense, not ethnic sense) to lose the connection on WhatsApp due to Iranian government? Surely the blocklist isn't implemented inside Facebook, it must be based on cellphone carrier. Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32937782 links to claims that the Iranian government hacked WhatsApp or one of its networking providers.

Facebook is working with the Iranian government, of course.

Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp

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Let's see the governments try to ban iPhone. What a nice revolution trigger.

They already tried: https://www.globaltradealert.org/intervention/80877/import-b... From the same site: Iran smartphone imports (sept 2021 - sept 2022) 1 Samsung 48% 2 Xiaomi 28% 3 Nokia 12% 4 Apple 6%

Good thing other manufacturers are going to copy the feature soon.

Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp

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What are the odds someone makes iranstagram.com lol Edit: i've just read the article. disheartening series of events. my country philippines has flaws but damn i can still say i'm lucky in a lot of ways.

.com is probably not the right TLD for the iranstagram product.

Am I paranoid to to think Iran has the CA signing key for any TLD you can register with there?

Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp

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Let's see the governments try to ban iPhone. What a nice revolution trigger.

If you think violence in the name of Apple products is plausible you may have an unhealthy obsession with Apple products.

Yes, I think violence in the name of affordable satellite phones is plausible.

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Iran is geographically two countries away from Israel, the country that clandestinely fomented similar riots/insurrections in 10+ other countries that border Israel during the Arab Spring. Furthermore, Israel has been greatly outspoken in its hatred of Iran and Iran's nuclear program, going so far as to deploy the most sophisticated cyberattack in history[1]. It would hardly be a conspiracy theory to pin this on Isra…

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How about some evidence? And why are you getting all high and mighty? Your stance is among the basest imaginable, you have no reason to speak in that way.

Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp

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Iranian government is especially horrible.

Also, restricting information and frees speech is something that western governments routinely do. Sometimes to skew election result in favor of the ruling regime.

Supporters of the regime see it as stopping 'misinformation'. I'm not sure if they actually believe that or if it is just convenient cover for unethical and immoral conduct.

Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp

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Iranian software engineer here, AMA

On one hand I don't want to ruin this thread with what is a common topic of disagreement; at the same time your kind offer provides a unique opportunity.

There is a fairly, if not pervasive let's call it vocal technical sentiment that blockchain and related crypto technologies, in some form, are government/oppression-proof; that it provides financial and communication paths and channels that are so firm they withstand attempts by government to shut them down and infiltrate. And that therefore they would "solve a lot of problems" in an oppressive / troubled society.

I come from a country that suffered a civil war, and I've always felt that was naive... Blockchain feels like a complex stack with myriad potential points of failure and accidental reveal for a normal citizen. More to the point, I feel many people are underestimating just how totalitarian and ruthless a government CAN get - a) in locking down through technological means by owning and monitoring infra and coming down immediately to anybody downloading/using/sending software/hardware/protocol/tokens/packets/dns/whatever that is even remotely suspicious, and b) their ability and willingness to apply violence quickly and mercilessly on mere suspicion, happily just as an example and upon a potentially innocent person, and therefore its quick and chilling effect on populace. Or to put it other way - there are places on this Earth where I would not personally dare install some software or send some data, and I'm reasonably technically competent; the risk and impact are just too high.

What's your and your friends' perspective? Are there bullet-proof / safe technological means? What's the risk ratio and success for subverting government whether via blockchain or VPN or Signal etc?

Thx for any thoughts you might contribute :)

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