Starlink iPhones can’t come soon enough.
With their 50% inflation and ~10k% average salary I bet they can't wait for these tech gadgets either...
As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp
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Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp
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Culture moves both ways. I would rather American companies not get so comfortable with blatant censorship. While we do still have some degree of censorship (and a whole lot pf privacy violation), it’s still generally seen as a taboo and not as a moral or necessary thing. Once the social standards change however, the goalpost moves and it becomes harder to maintain the same freedoms we had before.
Important point. To reiterate, the culture of companies change.
Culture in general changes. A company is not an island. Employees move around, tech moves around. Society at large gets comfortable with censorship when its use spreads.
We're all looking for ways to censor spammers or belligerents from internet forums. It could easily start there and spread to other areas.
Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp
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How is it possible for two non-Iranians (in a geographic/telecom sense, not ethnic sense) to lose the connection on WhatsApp due to Iranian government? Surely the blocklist isn't implemented inside Facebook, it must be based on cellphone carrier. Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32937782 links to claims that the Iranian government hacked WhatsApp or one of its networking providers.
Normally the government (in this case Iran) contacts the service provider (in this case FB/Whatsapp)and lets them know that unless they self-block their service, the government will do blocking at the network level and might issue fines. Normally, that makes the service provider implement blocks on their end, because then at least they can present the user with a sensible error message, and other services that the go…
Sure, but if Meta/Facebook/Whatsapp would react to such an order from _Iran_ they'd be in very big trouble _very_ quickly. That's violating US sanctions level stuff.
Ignoring the Iranian government might make them loose some users. Trying to ignore the US government will make some people go to prison. If that's what happens.. someone made a _very_ bad decision
Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is it possible for two non-Iranians (in a geographic/telecom sense, not ethnic sense) to lose the connection on WhatsApp due to Iranian government? Surely the blocklist isn't implemented inside Facebook, it must be based on cellphone carrier. Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32937782 links to claims that the Iranian government hacked WhatsApp or one of its networking providers.
Normally the government (in this case Iran) contacts the service provider (in this case FB/Whatsapp)and lets them know that unless they self-block their service, the government will do blocking at the network level and might issue fines. Normally, that makes the service provider implement blocks on their end, because then at least they can present the user with a sensible error message, and other services that the go…
It is illegal in USA for Meta to pay fines to Iran government.
The government is blocking at network level anyway.
The app provider should detect the network outage and provide a good UI, not proactively block users who aren't using the affected network at all.
Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp
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I'm sure repressive governments will make it illegal to use phones that can connect to Starlink. Satellite phones are banned in India, for example. You will be arrested for a lot longer for owning a satellite phone than if you owned a gun illegally.
Let's see the governments try to ban iPhone. What a nice revolution trigger.
A government that beats young women to death could probably intimidate people that grumble that they can't buy the least apple fashion accessory
Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp
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FWIW, Google said they pulled out of China for principled reasons but they did it practically for self-preservation. Google got hacked by inside actors planted in their physical offices by the Chinese government. It's one of the very few times that Gmail's security was compromised. At the time, Google did not have the security countermeasures in place to protect against such an attack so they responded by severing th…
>Google got hacked by inside actors planted in their physical offices by the Chinese government. This just isn't true? It was an IE 0-day.
That was one of the tools used. The attackers got access to the Gmail backing store.
Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp
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I'm sure repressive governments will make it illegal to use phones that can connect to Starlink. Satellite phones are banned in India, for example. You will be arrested for a lot longer for owning a satellite phone than if you owned a gun illegally.
Let's see the governments try to ban iPhone. What a nice revolution trigger.
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Re: As unrest grows, Iran restricts access to Instagram, WhatsApp
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Let's see the governments try to ban iPhone. What a nice revolution trigger.
A government that beats young women to death could probably intimidate people that grumble that they can't buy the least apple fashion accessory
Right now there's practically a revolution because they don't want to wear a piece of fabric on heads. I don't think they could.
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