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Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#601
If we're listing pet peeves, there's an infuriating one that Microsoft steadfastly refuses to fix: MFA re-authentication prompts that often occur in a middle of a meeting.

Recently I was presenting to 30+ senior staff, and in the middle of my sentence Microsoft Teams decided to shove its virtual hand in my face and prompt me to AUTHENTICATE RIGHT NOW. Not after the meeting, not in idle time, no sir! Right now. This instant. Or your presentation to the CxOs is over, you hear me? Got it?

Press the button on the phone, now. Press it. PRESS IT.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#602

Try this: select all the text in a text box input in teams with your mouse, click and drag the cursor to select the text. Start typing. It will type the correct characters, right to left. So instead on "hello world" it will display "dlrow olleh". No joke. Selecting by triple clicking doesn't trigger the right-to-left typing. Using shift and arrows doesn't. Just by dragging the cursor. I can't imagine what could possi…

Can't repro this on my end to be fair.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#603

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Text copied from a conversation is polluted with names and time stamps. "I really want this feature" said nobody ever I want this feature in any "enterprise" chat app. In fact, more often than not if I copy multiple messages from multiple authors I want to have author/time metadata. For the very same reason we leave replied-to content in emails. I agree that there should be mechanism to copy text only and even a se…

Sure, if you're copying multiple messages in a conversation. Otherwise you're still able to select the name and time along with the message. Hijacking my clipboard with data I have not selected can fuck off.

This. No app should be futching with the text I select to copy. It's like those damn websites who use JS to add crap to text copied from their pages.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#605
I'm using teams on macbook (teams have been a default communication channel of client i'm working with). It's truly terrible. Thing I hate about it the most is that it is absolutely not working well with other OS features. In example, when I do development I like to put on a 'focus' mode. Every other notification would go to the notifications bar without bothering me, but NOT TEAMS, it would stick itself out and bang my ears with a notification sound just like it would with a hammer. Once you try something great (slack) you don't want to go back.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#606

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather have Team that Slack or Discord. After my company switched to Teams, my IT department became much more productive because the amount of needless interaction with other people decreased. And we were not affected by that shit, since we share the same office anyways. Who needs a messenger when you can shout ;)

How did Teams do that that slack or discord couldn't do? 90% of the features are overlapping. And Teams performs by far the worst at that 90%.

I think this:

> And Teams performs by far the worst at that 90%.

is exactly the reason for:

> the amount of needless interaction with other people decreased.

Simply put: nobody wants to touch teams, so they only do this when absolutely necessary (and even then chances are they will just send an email).

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#607
Disclaimer: I'm a long time Linux user, libre software evangelist and all round sandal wearer.

When Teams first arrived, I was startled at how good it was. Great UI, good telephony and just did what it was meant to do. It worked well, and did what it said on the tin.

I've watched it turn to shit over the last two years. Every update made it slower, buggier and more annoying. Surreptitious updates made me miss meetings as the background service on Android was stopped and never restarted after the update.

What was once a pleasant surprise is now a horrific buggy PoS. Kill it with fire.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#608
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Teams doesn't have to be good to succeed. It just has to exist. It's not even very important how good it is. Given it exists, IT will make everyone use it on Microsoft's behalf regardless of how bad it is. Or another way to look at it is that the real customers for Teams are IT departments. It makes their lives easier because they don't have to do anything and it meets all the compliance requirements they are suppose…

Also "we are paying for O365 already, we get Teams for free*".

remember when Slack tried to file an antitrust complaint about these anti-competitive practices?

Yeah well somehow that got silenced real quick. Microsoft is evil under the surface, with extreme close ties to governments, regulators, ...

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - Teams for desktop likes to randomly decide your microphone isn't working, and turn your audio off. The microphone works fine in literally any other program. If you're using a Mac this might be a MacOS feature/bug which you might already worked around it in another applications https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253371535

No, I'm on Linux

Don't you know that you're supposed to run Linux in WSL, and use teams outside the VM, in Windows? ;)

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#610
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I'm convinced Redmond is using Slack on macbooks internally. We're Microsoft hardware (surface line), Microsoft OS, and Microsoft software. You'd think things would work with that combo? Sleep is utterly broken, Excel crashes, snip works sometimes, audio levels are all over the place with teams doing its own thing separate from system, BT connections are unstable, teams is dog slow, Onenote search gives up with even…

When I was working in Redmond I never used IE once.

Famously the entire team working on the Windows 11 GUI uplift are Mac users. Explains a lot.
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