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Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by kweingar »

wyldfire wrote: post #345
askvictor wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I share your concerns, the user experience and security of ChromeOS is so much nicer than Windows, or Linux (haven't used a Mac for ages so can't compare), for most tasks for most people. It's what I'd recommend to my grandparents. Also, completely disagree with your point about locking people into Google ecosystem - this is an OS that just runs a web browser. You need a Google account to log in, sure (actually…

I'm a fan of Linux and a fan of ChromeOS. but are the user experience and security better on ChromeOS than Linux? It's a bit simpler than linux but I'd say Linux is a close second.

(Disclaimer: I work on ChromeOS at Google)

I would let anyone, even a total stranger, use my Chromebook in guest mode without a second thought (as long as I am reasonably sure they won’t steal it, break it, or disassemble it).

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by malkia »

kelnos wrote: post #322

I hesitated posting this, because I don't want to be too negative, but: ugh. ChromeOS is just more Google adware/tracking-ware, locking people into the Google ecosystem, and (by default, at least) creating a more locked-down environment than a general-purpose OS would have (not quite iOS or even Android, but still not with the flexibility of a "mainstream" OS). I feel like Framework could be spending their time doing…

Sorry but no. It's limited, no Vulkan, can't compile/use kernel drivers, etc. But useable for a lot more than not. Also `docker` still works on it.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by malkia »

My best device for the last 3-4 years have been Eve Chromebook with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD - still can't find a newer Chromebook that matches it :(

That's all I wanted... something newer that runs Vulkan too in Crostini :)

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by binkHN »

refulgentis wrote: post #271
n0ric wrote: post #43

I'm having a hard time imagining the audience for this product. EDU most likely isn't going to go with this product due to cost (and can get easily complex, imagine trying to juggle all the expansion ports being lost by students), and typical audiences for ChromeOS devices don't always overlap with audiences who want easy repairability (and most likely are purchasing the device for the lack of nuances that other OSes…

People are sleeping on how awesome Chrome OS is. It really is awesome. The 2020 equivalent of 2005 OS X vs. Windows. From there, Linux container. It's mind-boggling to me because I switched _off_ Apple the last 5 years after realizing how powerful it is to be able to pick up a well-made powerful laptop for $600 instead of $2400. It's so much better to have something thats an iPad and a laptop. Ugh. Anyways. Underrate…

I concur! I have a few ChromeOS devices at home and, more often than not, it's a simple pleasure. And now with ChromeOS Flex, even more hardware can become more pleasurable. Yes, I know there are some downsides with Flex, but, in this case, I simply feel more ChromeOS, in either form, is, well, better.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by surajrmal »

leonlag wrote: post #38
nrp wrote: post #7

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ChromeOS! Specifically, the Mainboard is custom-designed for ChromeOS. This means it uses coreboot instead of a proprietary BIOS and has Google's Titan C security chip. There are some other smaller differences. To keep the cost down, the top cover is aluminum-formed instead of CNCed, for compatibility reasons we weren't able to bring our fingerprint module in, and we were able to improve both audio quality and speake…

> coreboot instead of a proprietary BIOS and has Google's Titan C security chip This is what I was hoping when I got the announcement via email. The question is if this will be locked down to chromeos or if it's possible to install your own keys to load a linux distro while still retaining verified boot capabilities.

I believe all Chromebooks are capable of having custom keys installed.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by Mikeb85 »

Seems like it's targeting the wrong crowd. Framework laptops would naturally appeal to the tinkerer and techie crowd, meanwhile ChromeOS is very much a casual user kind of OS. It makes sense to have $300 Acer laptops running ChromeOS, not so much a $1000 repairable laptop...

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!

Bit late to the party, I'm in Tasmania and was up a mountain doing various things.

I work in metal fabrication (tradesperson) and run a laser cutter as my full time job, and have an interest in most things metallurgical.

Are you able to talk about the 50% post-consumer recycled aluminium. What were the pros / cons of 50% rather than higher or lower percentages.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by pksebben »

jorvi wrote: post #343
DoctorOW wrote: post #306

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As long as the fire continues to burn, the best firefighters in the world couldn't extinguish it.

But the marketing departement isn’t the firefighters. They’re the marketing of the parks departement. Once the firefighters put the fire out (Google engineering stops haphazardly killing products), marketing can attract people to the parks again (Google marketing attracts people to their services).

I feel like I'm missing some information here. Is it the engineering team that kills projects? I would think whoever's controlling the funding has their hand on the plug...
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