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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s Teams. On a intel Mac with no management software, it is a shitty, buggy mess.

Works beautifully on an M1. I never have any of the issues that colleagues do on their heavily IT mutilated PCs.

It’s not great on my Intel Mac. Code formatting via backticks is only applied if I type the last backtick slowly. If I type normally, it just interprets it as non-markup.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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post #40

This happens because of how Microsoft approaches product development and design. On many product teams, PMs end up doing not only the product design decisions but even designs much of the products themselves. This works for them because it focuses product cycles on releasing what "matters" to the customer, but it ends up cutting craft and quality. This makes their products poor to use, but is also what drives revenue…

For this reason the US military said NO to Microsoft [1] The more the deep state (nothing about conspiracy theory, it's just the people at the oval office, and their surroundings, mostly industry lobby) want to trust and push Microsoft, the worse it's going to get in the coming years were AI, software and hardware will be the deciding factor for the civilization war we are currently living > Microsoft insiders worry…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Sabotage

Looks like Microsoft will have to do in the matter of keeping the state from being too efficient.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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post #40

This happens because of how Microsoft approaches product development and design. On many product teams, PMs end up doing not only the product design decisions but even designs much of the products themselves. This works for them because it focuses product cycles on releasing what "matters" to the customer, but it ends up cutting craft and quality. This makes their products poor to use, but is also what drives revenue…

I suggest that Teams only gets used because it’s included in the enormous license that companies buy for Exchange and/or Office and the most popular alternative has its own fees. Large companies don’t want to fork over another licensing fee in the tens of thousands of dollars for Slack when they’re getting Teams “free.”

right and it’s integrated with Sharepoint, Outlook and OneDrive.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Long ago Microsoft had MSN Messenger, which was one of the leading messaging apps. It worked well, and many 'normal' users were using it. Then Microsoft dissolved the team behind it and screwed up the product so bad with bloatware and ads that everyone moved to WhatsApp (except in the US where people went back to texting). Then Microsoft came out with Communicator, renamed it to Lync, which was a corporate messenger/…

I started a new job and decided to go all in on using o365, including keeping notes in onenote. They’re launching a new version next month and I’m hoping that things go in the right direction and they keep the features i’ve just started to use.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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post #45

My company is transitioning to Teams and I find it frustrating. So much so that I collect my complaints in a confluence page. I could be wrong on some of these, so happy to be corrected! No links You can’t link to conversations. This means if you want to add context to a Jira ticket or in a code comment, you can’t easily do so. Inconsistent UI The UI between a Teams channel and a chat with multiple people is not cons…

How hard is it to get codeblocks working instead of them focusing on every use case on the planet. It's so damn terrible.

Always a 50/50 shot whether typing three tick marks ``` will do what I want, or do nothing.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#100
I had issues for weeks (form the point we found there was even an issue) with some users not being able to create meetings with breakout rooms. Strangely, I also noticed their UI was different. Speaking with Microsoft support, after being elevated to engineers for a while, we found out the clients were being put into VDI mode which is used in virtualised environments and has features cut like breakout rooms (and a different UI). No solution was offered except delete %appdata%\Microsoft\Teams and HKLM:\\Software\Microsoft\Teams on each client when this comes up. We still have no idea how this is happening, we have Citrix Workspace installed for other purposes, but if it was that I'd expect it to affect all clients.

This has been my only real complaint in the ~8 months using the client

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