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Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by insane_dreamer »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #54
slaw wrote: post #23

I am disappointed, there is Chromebook edition, but still no Linux edition only DIY.

It looks like you can configure the DIY without an OS, and they have official guides up on installing Fedora, Ubuntu, Manjaro and Mint: https://frame.work/nl/en/linux

I think he means one where all the components are selected because they are well supported by Linux drivers, and dispensing with x86 only components. That would indeed be useful. I would even pre-install Ubuntu on it and then users can replace with ____ (insert favorite distro here). You can be sure that the vast majority of people using a distro other than Ubuntu know how to install it.

Edit: It looks like they did indeed put it together with Linux in mind: https://frame.work/nl/en/linux

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by shams93 »

kelnos wrote: post #322

I hesitated posting this, because I don't want to be too negative, but: ugh. ChromeOS is just more Google adware/tracking-ware, locking people into the Google ecosystem, and (by default, at least) creating a more locked-down environment than a general-purpose OS would have (not quite iOS or even Android, but still not with the flexibility of a "mainstream" OS). I feel like Framework could be spending their time doing…

For android and web development with its matured linux subsystem it works really great, even audio/midi apps like reaper run as linux apps so its surprisingly powerful and of course a lot better than windows, on the right hardware it can be nicer than macos in terms of being open and able to code on it.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by harry8 »

nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!

What was your process in deciding to pursue this and bring the product to market?

How did you see the niche and do you still see it the same way now it is here?

What do you consider to be the value proposition for potential customers of this product?

What is your assessment of the TAM?

Do you have limits on how many differentiated products you are willing to pursue simultaneously in the market?

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by robch »

webmobdev wrote: post #71
philliphaydon wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why this over getting an AMD laptop? After the terrible experience of going back to Intel, I doubt I'll ever bother with an Intel laptop ever again. Is Intel giving benefits to ensure you don't support AMD?

Yes. This is why I don't really buy all this talk of Intel is "dead and finished" and will "fade away" in the next 5 year ... Even though Intel has an inferior product to AMD, they are really good at selling their product and don't mind indulging in unethical (or even illegal) market practices to do so. They still have a lot of money and they use it well to undercut their competitors. AMD shines in technical competen…

I think it is more complex than that. AMD uses TSMC foundaries to make their chips and has to compete with nVidia and Apple for capacity. Intel can guarentee their yields because they own their foundaries.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by IE6 »

dheera wrote: post #298
IE6 wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they want a Chromebook and they don't want Ubuntu with no desktop icons? I'm not sure what you're implying to be honest.

I mean, a desktop with a full-featured OS like Ubuntu (or Windows or Mac or whatever) can do so much more, and that justifies a higher price of the equipment. If I'm paying to have only Chrome and nothing else, I should be getting some kind of huge discount ... Would you pay more to have a dumb phone that only does calls, than a smart phone?

An enterprise chromeos device (usually the higher end ones fall into this category) can run windows via parallels, web pages via the chrome browser, linux CLI and GUI apps via crostini, and android apps with google play support. Out of the box without any major modifications. Which Linux distribution offers that amount of functionality out of the box?

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by fishywang »

nrp wrote: post #2

I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!

as someone who has been using chromebooks for years, I'm really excited for this!

1. do you have any plans to provide expansion cards for ltr/5g connectivity?

2. do you have any plans to provide more memory for chromebook edition?

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by turtlebits »

xd1936 wrote: post #228
turtlebits wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be thinking of the Pixelbook Go with the Intel m3? My Pixelbook (from 2018) is an i5, and performs fine.

They're right. I loved my Pixelbook (non-Go), but the Core i5[1] and i7[2] used pretty underpowered 7W CPUs. 1. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/97461/i... 2. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/95441/i...

I've never heard of anyone complaining that the OG Pixelbook was underpowered. Even today, it runs Chrome just fine.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by fomine3 »

turtlebits wrote: post #337
xd1936 wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're right. I loved my Pixelbook (non-Go), but the Core i5[1] and i7[2] used pretty underpowered 7W CPUs. 1. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/97461/i... 2. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/95441/i...

I've never heard of anyone complaining that the OG Pixelbook was underpowered. Even today, it runs Chrome just fine.

it says running VM for Android is heavy

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Post by adastra22 »

stavros wrote: post #86
warent wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey there, just wanted to share my experience with you. I've used Macbooks for the past like 6 years for programming, after several jobs in Silicon Valley required it. Apple has been pretty much okay except for some key issues around memory consumption and overheating. After they hit a supply line issue earlier this year, I decided to try getting a Framework instead. Been using my Framework laptop for a month or so n…

Having just bought a Framework to replace my 5-year-old XPS, I really hope I have the same experience as you. Do you run Linux, by the way? I hope Linux support is good.

Ubuntu 22.04 works out of the box with no issues so far.
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