Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
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Re: Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
#2It is only compatible because we are approaching peak population mid to late century and then we will slowly contract over time until extinction through lack of births... if trends continue.
Re: Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
#3>infinite exponential growth which is impossible on a finite planet.
its impossible in any space with non negative curvature. the kind of growth that is unsustainable in a finite region is any growth at all.
Re: Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
#4It is only compatible because we are approaching peak population mid to late century and then we will slowly contract over time until extinction through lack of births... if trends continue.
If trends continue, there will be 10 billion Amish in 100 years.
Re: Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
#5It is only compatible because we are approaching peak population mid to late century and then we will slowly contract over time until extinction through lack of births... if trends continue.
We aren't heading to extinction just on account of birthrates, it's the transition phase with a large number of elderly dependents and a small number of workers that is going to be the real problem.
Re: Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
#6>infinite exponential growth which is impossible on a finite planet. its impossible in any space with non negative curvature. the kind of growth that is unsustainable in a finite region is any growth at all.
constant growth != infinite growth
constant growth just means converging growth
if the population is shrinking all we need to do is increase gdp per capita.
Re: Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
#7It is only compatible because we are approaching peak population mid to late century and then we will slowly contract over time until extinction through lack of births... if trends continue.
If trends continue, there will be 10 billion Amish in 100 years.
It is not entirely without merit to say that religious folks that encourage large families like the Amish, Catholics and Mormons will dominate in the distant future. Hell, I have 45 first cousins (on one side) and they on average have 3+ kids so it might just be my extended family :)
Re: Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
#8It is only compatible because we are approaching peak population mid to late century and then we will slowly contract over time until extinction through lack of births... if trends continue.
We aren't heading to extinction just on account of birthrates, it's the transition phase with a large number of elderly dependents and a small number of workers that is going to be the real problem.
Unless most work is intellectual/creative and most manual labor is automated or machine assisted 50 years from now. There are way more 70+ year olds still in the workforce currently than ever before and it isn't crazy to think retiring at 60 is a thing of the past.
Re: Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
#9It is only compatible because we are approaching peak population mid to late century and then we will slowly contract over time until extinction through lack of births... if trends continue.
We aren't heading to extinction just on account of birthrates, it's the transition phase with a large number of elderly dependents and a small number of workers that is going to be the real problem.
Yeah, that will be a problem for sure. We will get a preview of it in Asia.
Re: Modernity is incompatible with planetary limits: a PLAN for the future
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
If trends continue, there will be 10 billion Amish in 100 years.
It is not entirely without merit to say that religious folks that encourage large families like the Amish, Catholics and Mormons will dominate in the distant future. Hell, I have 45 first cousins (on one side) and they on average have 3+ kids so it might just be my extended family :)
That experiment has been running for 50 generations already, by now it should have reached steady-state.
Perhaps that's part of the reason that 84% of the world's population identifies with a religion.