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Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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Re: Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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On a related note, since mid-April, the Fed has withdrawn –$140B of liquidity from the financial system: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32929454 and earlier this year announced that it plans to continue withdrawing liquidity from the financial system at the rate of $90B/month for the foreseeable future. The innocuous term for these withdrawals is "quantitative tightening." There are no historical precedents for…

at $90B/month it will take 89 months to unload.

Re: Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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I haven't seen any reporting on how the recent and huge amounts of QE might factor into all of this. In my primate mind, wouldn't ongoing QE curb the impact of rising interest rates on inflation?

Given your other comment, when you say "ongoing," what you mean is some of the assets they purchased remain on the Fed's books. If they don't continue buying, the fact that they still hold some of it doesn't have any further impact on rates on debt being offered in the future. They're doing more selling than buying at this point, which drives rates up. You don't need to dump everything at once to change the direction of movement. Think of like the strategic oil reserves. Selling any of it drives prices down. You don't need to sell literally all of it.

Re: Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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Given that mortgage rates recently rose past 6%, seems to me this latest rate increase is going to put strong pressure on house prices. The rate has a huge impact on the monthly payment required to service a loan, more so than is immediately apparent without doing the math.

Given that mortgage rates recently rose past 6%, seems to me this latest rate increase is going to put strong pressure on house prices. The rate has a huge impact on the monthly payment required to service a loan, more so than is immediately apparent without doing the math.

People keep hoping or expecting this, yet prices keep going up. As long as wages for top earners keep rising, so will demand in expensive areas. Also, real estate did well in the 90s despite high interest rates, too.

Re: Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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I'll echo what some folks have said in other threads, we've had rates down near zero for fifteen years, and we've got to get them back somewhere near historic normals at some point. If only so they can be cut again during the next crisis. How much is our entire culture the result of cheap money?

Money-"printing" creates the need to stash money away, which leads to passive investing since most people who have savings aren't market experts, which leads to perpetual bubbles. There's no option to simply hold money. This investment at least tends to go into profitable things like stocks, but not in a proportionate way. It hardly matters how profitable a company is; you just expect the stock to go up regardless be…

Oh and house prices in some places are ridiculous too, not in the whiny "I can't afford a house" way (I can) but just looking at the market. They have little to do with the actual utility you get out of home ownership, but that's ok because you're getting a growth asset under an effectively govt-subsidized loan. How can you tell, compare to rent, which is just the price of living.

Re: Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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I'll echo what some folks have said in other threads, we've had rates down near zero for fifteen years, and we've got to get them back somewhere near historic normals at some point. If only so they can be cut again during the next crisis. How much is our entire culture the result of cheap money?

A substantial chunk of the tech industry are speculative zombie companies that are built on the edifice of zero interest.

Can you elaborate? When I think of tech I think of venture funded (equity side), not debt funded.

Re: Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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This wont help inflation, interest rates are still effectively negative when inflation is considered.

What it will do is rise i interest payments on the US sovereign debt very significantly.

The US has two options, as far as I can tell.

1. Slash govt. spending (entitlements and defense) and rise taxes on the laptop class (that's us folks!)

2. Accept structural inflation and high interest rates.

The Dollar dominance is coming to an end, we weaponized it too much, so option 3, exporting inflation is out.

Politically 2 is easier, but in the long run disastrous.

Re: Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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Given that mortgage rates recently rose past 6%, seems to me this latest rate increase is going to put strong pressure on house prices. The rate has a huge impact on the monthly payment required to service a loan, more so than is immediately apparent without doing the math.

Given that mortgage rates recently rose past 6%, seems to me this latest rate increase is going to put strong pressure on house prices. The rate has a huge impact on the monthly payment required to service a loan, more so than is immediately apparent without doing the math. People keep hoping or expecting this, yet prices keep going up. As long as wages for top earners keep rising, so will demand in expensive areas.…

Prices have corrected across the market, where are you seeing prices going up.

Re: Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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I'll echo what some folks have said in other threads, we've had rates down near zero for fifteen years, and we've got to get them back somewhere near historic normals at some point. If only so they can be cut again during the next crisis. How much is our entire culture the result of cheap money?

A substantial chunk of the tech industry are speculative zombie companies that are built on the edifice of zero interest.

Scratch that (true, but the whole economy I counter needs cheap enough money to grow); the U.S. government is the biggest borrower I counter-claim. So taxes got to go up while the economy somehow keeps growing for this to be sustainable. Ergo, it is not in a matter of years, and I would say that is the common "secret."

The hope is that everyone is going to march in line and not go out asking for raises due to inflation; so that we end up with "hyper-inflation" before the supply chain system stabilizes, maybe the Russo-Ukraine conflict sees some light, and the U.S. Treasury can decide they can't sustain this any longer.

Thus, we are praying for all these pieces to kinda fall into place, so we don't end up with hyper-inflation, recession and interest rates going down all at the same time.

P.S. You can follow the target to actual rates here https://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/desk-operations/reverse-r...

Click All to see the difference in scale we are talking about to the past. 2 Trillions are parked to the Fed by banks, accumulating the new high interest, waiting for a signal to be re-enter.

Re: Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis points for the third time

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I'll echo what some folks have said in other threads, we've had rates down near zero for fifteen years, and we've got to get them back somewhere near historic normals at some point. If only so they can be cut again during the next crisis. How much is our entire culture the result of cheap money?

People get this backwards all the time. The fed did not cause cheap money, an aging population, sovereign wealth funds, and increasing inequality caused cheap money. The fed just responds by setting the interest rate to appropriately set the interest rate so we have full employment.
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