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Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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It doesn't.

Like iPhone "doesn't", i.e. you can use the main features but can't install apps. or completely doesn't?

There is "Browse as Guest": https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/1057090

However, I don't think this can be used until the Chromebook has been initially setup using some Google account.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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I’m reminded of this line in Bruce Almighty: “All this horsepower and no room to gallup” Is there really a market for a $999 Chromebook? Didn’t google try this several years ago and flop?

This is a legitimate question, so I'm not entirely sure why you're being faded.

Chromebooks do have a reputation for being under-powered budget mobile devices because they do serve that sector. They also do a lot more that can't be done as easily on Linux, if you have hardware that can support it.

As others have said, Pixelbooks are still coveted devices, and I've been tempted for years to buy one. I thought the original Framework would serve that niche, but it ultimately didn't.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Switches won't do much if your photos and videos are on your laptop through some other physical means (e.g. disk/network) or if you put them there when the switch was not active.

Yes they also don't protect you from car accidents or heart disease. What's your point? The purpose of a privacy switch is to make sure that Google (or anyone else, including hackers) isn't spying on you through your camera or microphone. This one accomplishes exactly that.

And the vegan sticker isn’t made of meat.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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I think the question is, why ChromeOS instead of a Linux?

In practice, full, stable hardware compatibility and battery life. The Linux experience on the Framework Laptop on recent distros (e.g. Ubuntu 22.04.1) is solid, but battery life will still generally be better running Ubuntu on top of ChromeOS.

The usual reason for a lot of those boil down to "poor driver support", but this is the same hardware with what I would presume is the same Linux kernel so same drivers, so what's the difference?

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Hey there, just wanted to share my experience with you. I've used Macbooks for the past like 6 years for programming, after several jobs in Silicon Valley required it. Apple has been pretty much okay except for some key issues around memory consumption and overheating. After they hit a supply line issue earlier this year, I decided to try getting a Framework instead. Been using my Framework laptop for a month or so n…

Having just bought a Framework to replace my 5-year-old XPS, I really hope I have the same experience as you. Do you run Linux, by the way? I hope Linux support is good.

I'm using 12th gen processor, latest versions of Ubuntu and Linux

  Ubuntu: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS
  Linux: 5.17.0-051700-generic
The only problems I've had so far is the "brightness" fn keys don't work, and bluetooth isn't great with certain devices like Airpods.

The brightness keys isn't a big deal, can still set brightness in the OS. It's probably fixable through some manual keymapping.

Bluetooth is more annoying but I somehow doubt it's a hardware issue. I just ended up getting Sony wireless earbuds to complete my transition away from Apple.

That being said, I also tried to dual boot Windows. Windows really does not like the hardware, and the Framework driver install package (https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/framework-laptop-bios...) had limited effect in fixing the issues. Lots of bugs with audio and graphics.

So, for now I would say it is too premature for Windows, but great for Linux!

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!

I have a 11th gen frame.work. 1. Could I swap mainboards to upgrade the 11th gen framework to the chromebook version? 2. Is the coreboot chip flashable with custom firmware? / Is the boot process locked? This might well be the mainboard I've been waiting for. Congratulations on shipping this!

This is what I want.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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I don't work for Framework, but my guess is that AMD doesn't make a chip with powerful enough IO controllers to operate the Framework. It's a shame, because I also like the Ryzen mobile chipset, but even the M1 wouldn't have enough IO bandwidth to drive 4x Thunderbolt 4 ports at full speed. Love them or hate them, this is part of the Intel 'package' that you're paying for. Besides, now is a terrible time to start off…

> next-gen mobile Ryzen chips were announced less than a month ago Technically the only mobile Ryzen chips announced so far are based on Zen 2 which is about to become two generations old. Expect "next-gen" mobile chip announcements in January. (The recent Zen 4 announcements have been for desktop parts.)

5000 and 6000 mobile chips are Zen 3 with some skus that are Zen 2. The 6000 series mobile chips with Zen 3 and RDNA 2 are available today and are excellent.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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I think the question is, why ChromeOS instead of a Linux?

Biased opinion here (working for Google). I love Linux and I would consider myself a power user (understanding HW arch, working with kernel sources). Basic Chromebook apps (+ Play Store) are something that "just work" for 80% of time for my use-cases (which is, browser and ssh-ing into a power machine in ze cloud/DC). I also have rather good understanding of threat models here, and the quality of the sandboxes and HW…

I agree that there are tons of great use cases for Chromebooks (I've owned like eight of them, including the Chromebook Pixel, and love them), but I also think that once you start getting into Android or Linux-heavy use cases, native devices are better than Chromebooks.

An Android tablet is a muuuuuch better experience for running Android apps than the Pixel Slate. A Framework running Fedora is a muuuuuch better experience for doing dev work than a Chromebook.

ChromeOS is great when used for what it is, and it's cool that it can flex to handle edge casey things with VMs. But if the VM stuff is most of what you want to do, just go a different way.

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