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Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!

I'm a huge chromebook fan actually -- but my current one is looking a tad unsupported (pixel slate) I've been considering a framework as a replacement actually! One of the things I really care about is battery life + sleep performance. The article mentions: > .* At the same time, the Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition is our most power efficient product yet with optimizations from Google and Intel that allow for lon…

Google has fairly strict requirements around power consumption. They have a standard test for 10 hours of active use through common use cases, which we were able to meet. For standby, the requirement is around 14 days. I have to double check where we are on the current software and firmware, but we are close to that number.

We actually did learn some things about the Intel re-timers through this product development that let us come up with ways to improve the behavior on the regular 12th Gen Framework Laptops. We are currently developing a firmware update for that that will improve both active and standby battery life.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

#83

This is awesome! I still use my Pixelbook, and I love it, and was always dismayed that it seemed to be yet another great product that Google lost interest in. For folks wondering "who's the market in this?", the Linux container support in ChromeOS is awesome - my Pixelbook was actually a great dev laptop (I ran postgres, VSCode, Node, etc on it), just with age it's lack of upgrades is starting to show. So for me, on…

I think the question is, why ChromeOS instead of a Linux?

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

#84

This is awesome! I still use my Pixelbook, and I love it, and was always dismayed that it seemed to be yet another great product that Google lost interest in. For folks wondering "who's the market in this?", the Linux container support in ChromeOS is awesome - my Pixelbook was actually a great dev laptop (I ran postgres, VSCode, Node, etc on it), just with age it's lack of upgrades is starting to show. So for me, on…

Yeah I love my chromebook as a cheap, almost throwaway device, for when I go on business trips. It's light, it keeps me away from my favorite games, if I drop it no big financial loss. All my work "work" is in the cloud.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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I absolutely disagree. If anything, this is a total validation of the idea that security does not require a locked-down device.

But it is locked down, in a way. It doesn't ship with a regular UEFI bios so you can't just install an alternative OS.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!

Hey there, just wanted to share my experience with you. I've used Macbooks for the past like 6 years for programming, after several jobs in Silicon Valley required it. Apple has been pretty much okay except for some key issues around memory consumption and overheating. After they hit a supply line issue earlier this year, I decided to try getting a Framework instead. Been using my Framework laptop for a month or so n…

Having just bought a Framework to replace my 5-year-old XPS, I really hope I have the same experience as you. Do you run Linux, by the way? I hope Linux support is good.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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Many schools are already using Chromebooks. Framework is now making it so they won't get ripped off. This is an incremental improvement that I can see making Framework a lot of money actually

Most schools are using $200-$300 Chromebooks, I don't think this $999 high performance alternative is really targeting that market.

This is a great point. Also, even if it is actually cheaper in the long term because they can just upgrade parts from the modularity of it, I somehow feel skeptical that a school IT unit is going to have that level of foresight. Even if they do, will they be able to successfully persuade the suits that control the budget?

Yup, you're right, this could be a very tough sell.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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I hope this works out for them. The largest market for Chromebooks are schools but are schools willing to pay Frameworks price? I don't believe so but I hope I'm wrong.

We bought refurb HP and Lenovo laptops for less than $400. >$900 for student laptops is a big no-go. I guess if you were a bigger University, but I cannot see it for the average school.

Re: The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition

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This is awesome! I still use my Pixelbook, and I love it, and was always dismayed that it seemed to be yet another great product that Google lost interest in. For folks wondering "who's the market in this?", the Linux container support in ChromeOS is awesome - my Pixelbook was actually a great dev laptop (I ran postgres, VSCode, Node, etc on it), just with age it's lack of upgrades is starting to show. So for me, on…

I think the question is, why ChromeOS instead of a Linux?

In practice, full, stable hardware compatibility and battery life. The Linux experience on the Framework Laptop on recent distros (e.g. Ubuntu 22.04.1) is solid, but battery life will still generally be better running Ubuntu on top of ChromeOS.
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