I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!
How's battery life during the ChromeOS equivalent of sleep/suspend/hibernate?
The Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
How long will Google support ChromeOS on this machine? What alternative OSes will it run? Edit: the article says “receives automatic updates for up to eight years” but an upper bound isn’t so helpful here.
Google is committed to a minimum of 8 years of security updates. We don't have currently have official support for other OS's, but there is an active community of people bringing other OS's to Chromebooks.
Is that after release or after the last sale of the model?
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#43I'm having a hard time imagining the audience for this product. EDU most likely isn't going to go with this product due to cost (and can get easily complex, imagine trying to juggle all the expansion ports being lost by students), and typical audiences for ChromeOS devices don't always overlap with audiences who want easy repairability (and most likely are purchasing the device for the lack of nuances that other OSes provide).
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#44I am disappointed, there is Chromebook edition, but still no Linux edition only DIY.
I don't think they could win with a "Linux Edition" laptop. What distro would they ship with? Pop!_OS? Ubuntu? Debian? Fedora? Alpine? Manjaro? No matter what they choose, I suspect they'd just get accused of picking sides and the vast majority of users would just re-install with their preferred distro.
Yep, this is indeed the main reason behind this. We polled the community and found a pretty even split between several major distros. Rather than having inventory explosion from a large number of OS-specific SKUs, we optimized for shipping without an OS and writing easy to follow install guides.
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#45What we've been asking for is a Framework running AMD hardware. What we're getting is a Framework running a stripped down Linux meant for schools and made by a spy company? I predict this thing not selling well, but I'm sure someone is excited.
Companies can offer multiple products.
If it fails to sell they will discontinue it but if it does well it can help Framework offer a broader range of products.
I would think that the upgradability has significant environmental upsides for schools (who otherwise end up ditching computers fairly regularly)
I suspect it also means laptops with minor damage can be fixed more economically or at the very least can be cannibalised for the working parts to fit to other school laptops.
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#46I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!
Apologies for the direct question, but I've wondered, how does this make sense for your business? Chromebooks have typically been seen as cheap versions of laptops but Frameworks is priced above the average Chromebook price.
Is there a sense that there is an untapped 'premium' chromebook audience or will this make sense even without that. Perhaps you're looking for large/discounted partnerships with educational organizations?
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#47I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!
Hey there, just wanted to share my experience with you. I've used Macbooks for the past like 6 years for programming, after several jobs in Silicon Valley required it. Apple has been pretty much okay except for some key issues around memory consumption and overheating.
After they hit a supply line issue earlier this year, I decided to try getting a Framework instead.
Been using my Framework laptop for a month or so now consistently for heavy programming work, and it is the best machine I've ever had. Thank you! It also was the catalyst to get me into using Linux (Ubuntu) which has been a huge blessing beyond what I expected.
I posted a photo of myself at a coffee shop to a Discord group, and someone saw the corner of the laptop. They asked "Is that a Macbook I see?" and I explained to them "Nah it's a Framework" and shared the link. Didn't really expect much beyond that, but actually they loved it. Several people looked at it and said "Wow! This sounds amazing! Actually... going to save this for later..."
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#48I’m reminded of this line in Bruce Almighty: “All this horsepower and no room to gallup” Is there really a market for a $999 Chromebook? Didn’t google try this several years ago and flop?
People love google’s pixelbook line, I think it just wasn’t a big enough commercial success to continue. I’ve used my pixelbook every day for like 5 years and it’s still incredible - boots in <1 second.
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#49I’m reminded of this line in Bruce Almighty: “All this horsepower and no room to gallup” Is there really a market for a $999 Chromebook? Didn’t google try this several years ago and flop?
This class of comment is pretty tired. Google Pixelbook did not "flop" it proved the viability of the $1000+ Chromebook market for serious users. There are Chromebooks on the market at all price points. You can build-to-order a HP Elite Dragonfly with a state-of-the-art CPU, 32GB of RAM, and 512GB of flash for $3200 and these are back-ordered to March 2023 so clearly the customers exist.
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#50I'm happy to answer questions anyone has on this product!
Beyond laptops / more speculative - are there other hardware devices you'd be curious about branching out to some day? AR/VR headsets, robotics, servers for rendering/ML on the edge, etc.?