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Launch HN: Spinach.io (YC W22) – Better daily standups

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Re: Launch HN: Spinach.io (YC W22) – Better daily standups

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Post by vlod »

itake wrote: post #66
vertis wrote: post #24

Firstly, congrats on launching. Hard work is hard. I don't want to be negative on your launch day, but at the same time feedback is important. 1. I couldn't see myself or the many agile/lean teams I've been part of using this. I don't feel enough of a burden when walking the board for this to be worth the money. 2. A user in spinach.io costs effectively the same amount as a user in Slack, the difference is that I'm g…

As an EM, I use documented standups to keep track of how long and when people work on tasks. When a person is under performing, this document is invaluable reference. When a person is exceeding expectations, this document helps me write their promo doc. This could could be useful to manage that data better, but currently I use a Google Doc sheet. That being said, I couldn't justify the cost of this tool to my manager…

Doesn't sound fun at all. I wonder what the employee attrition level is.

Maybe everyone is happy with this (or don't question it), I certainly wouldn't be. :shrug:

Unless it's not clear, remember people leave employment because of bosses rather than the company.

Re: Launch HN: Spinach.io (YC W22) – Better daily standups

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Post by talmi »

tamalsaha001 wrote: post #70

We have been using https://www.dailybot.com (another YC company) for the last 2-3 years. That one is great, too!

Slackbots like DailyBot are great for fully async standups. We've found that many topics a better handled on a live conversation, so support both live and async use cases as well as alternating between live and async

Re: Launch HN: Spinach.io (YC W22) – Better daily standups

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Post by joshwillis2000 »

joshwillis2000 wrote: post #88
dorkrawk wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody likes spinach but you eat it because it's good for you. Interpret that as you will for standups...

maybe a nice capresse salad?

I've been informed that capresse salad is not made with spinach. I retract my previous comment. Spinach with strawberries and a nice vinaigrette is pretty good.

Re: Launch HN: Spinach.io (YC W22) – Better daily standups

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Post by mikhael28 »

vertis wrote: post #79
itake wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an EM, I use documented standups to keep track of how long and when people work on tasks. When a person is under performing, this document is invaluable reference. When a person is exceeding expectations, this document helps me write their promo doc. This could could be useful to manage that data better, but currently I use a Google Doc sheet. That being said, I couldn't justify the cost of this tool to my manager…

It's disappointing that standups are used in this way. I don't know you and I don't know your team but this kind of approach to standups is probably wrecking your standups. The standup has it's roots in the agile manifesto[0] (gross simplification). Specifically "Individuals and interactions over processes and tools". The coming together every day for just a few minutes is an opportunity to ask for help (blockers). B…

A large part of Agile, at least from what I remember in my ScrumMaster training, is to recognize reality.

You estimated that you would do x amount of work. You only did y. Or, you did x + z - wow, you are a great performer. You should verbalize your success more often.

A part of confronting reality, is confronting the prospect of under-performing employees.

I think your 'ideology' is blinding you a little bit OP, at least - if you want to base your concept of standups based on how they were formulated in the original Agile manifesto - 'At regular intervals, the team reflects on how to become more effective, then tunes and adjusts its behavior accordingly.'

Frankly, most dev teams don't give a whit about Agile and just do stand-ups to keep the PMs and SMEs appraised of progress and to check in on a couple of things here and there.

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