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Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by b112 »

abrax3141 wrote: post #130
b112 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am trying to follow ycomb guidelines, and assume the best intent here, but there is just so much wrong about how you view scientific research, and play, and hobby, and learning, and duty, that after rewriting my reply 3 times, I cannot imagine you're not trolling. If you're not trolling, you need to seriously step back, and think about how play=learning, how any scientific research=benefits us all. Going to Mars is…

> A project such as going to Mars, will yield immense scientific research and output, benefiting humanity as a whole. I’m not trolling. I really do disagree with this in good faith. You can get the same materials research etc benefits by doing something that directly benefits humankind. Also, I don’t think that Musk thinks that it’s the spin-off stuff that matters. He honestly and in good faith wants to expand humans…

Expanding human knowledge and reach is good, not bad, and does benefit mankind.

The type of thought process you are employing is not good for humanity. If we followed your thought process, we would still be in caves.

Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by fennecfoxy »

Cyberdog wrote: post #112

Ha, that's so needlessly inefficient! Now let me get back to work with my Electron code editor while I communicate with my team in four different Electron chat apps and code a web page which requires 2.5MB of assets to load (not counting the massive autoplaying background video).

I do hate Electron but a little overhead these days is what gets us all the stuff we have.

It's not so much overhead that's killing technology for me atm, it's dumb decisions/terrible technoshit.

Like Google's Nest products that randomly disconnect from wifi and refuse to reconnect. How do you fuck up connecting to wifi in 2022?

Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by abrax3141 »

b112 wrote: post #131
abrax3141 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A project such as going to Mars, will yield immense scientific research and output, benefiting humanity as a whole. I’m not trolling. I really do disagree with this in good faith. You can get the same materials research etc benefits by doing something that directly benefits humankind. Also, I don’t think that Musk thinks that it’s the spin-off stuff that matters. He honestly and in good faith wants to expand humans…

Expanding human knowledge and reach is good, not bad, and does benefit mankind. The type of thought process you are employing is not good for humanity. If we followed your thought process, we would still be in caves.

You know what. You’re right and I’m wrong. I’m not just saying that. I really thought a bit more about it, and for the most part, I think you and the others who took me to task here are right. It is art, and people shouldn’t be criticized for doing their art. And the quest for knowledge is a great thing, so robots on Mars and the Webb etc. all terrific. (I still think sending people to Mars is a waste, but hey, it’s Musk’s art and his money to waste. So whatever.)

Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by abrax3141 »

abrax3141 wrote: post #124
glitchc wrote: post #122

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Think of it as art rather than science. Do we question why someone created a piece of art, or whether they could have spent their time better by creating a different piece of art?

Hmmm. Okay. Fair point. Although it actually is science. And these folks could be doing real science.

Ps. I’ve elsewhere agreed with you. It is art and I was wrong to criticize it. (It’s too late to edit my previous reply .)

Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by abrax3141 »

vintermann wrote: post #129
abrax3141 wrote: post #120

You’re all going to hate on me for this, so first let me say that this is amazing. I’m awed by it. Truly. And I am very familiar with minecraft and even have been known to do a bit of redstone hacking myself I love seeing the cool things some folks do with it. (I’ve some redstone sorting algorithms and I’m esp fond of redstone Turing machines!) But this! This is like sending a person to mars! And I have the same ques…

It's a reasonable thing to ask if you think intelligence is some fungible quantity that can be applied wherever you wish. But that's in "so wrong it's not even wrong" territory. Sammyuri's interest and focus is microprocessor design. I'm sure he has a future in it (as far as I understand he's fairly young). Curing cancer isn't something he's likely to be good at, but who knows, maybe the chips he helps design will he…

Time is definitely fungible, and youth is fleeting, and us old guys wish we’d spent them both differently. However, I’ve elsewhere in this thread become convinced that you and the others are right. Folks shouldn’t be criticized for following their passion. (Well, I guess I can think of rare cases where their passions may be so anomalous as to be worth criticism, but this isn’t one of those.)

Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by vanderZwan »

samstave wrote: post #103
nsilvestri wrote: post #100

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Minecraft has a feature called redstone. It's "dust" that you can pour on blocks to create wires. These wires can be powered from in-game items. Combining two or more of these powered wires with some spatial positioning can give you an OR gate. Some of these power sources can be turned off if they receive power themselves. Those are NOT gates. With an OR and a NOT gate, the world's your oyster.

Tank you for explaining how stupid I am <3

I wouldn't consider being uninformed and taking the initiative to fix that stupid.

Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by PixyMisa »

sitkack wrote: post #106
PaulHoule wrote: post #99

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It might be fun to get a big box of relays. Sometimes I think I want to make a frame buffer out of 74xx parts and some SRAM.

Counter, decoder, resistor ladder, op-amp per color channel and you have component video. I am not sure how I could generate the timing info. I suppose there is much higher freq parts, one could do direct digital synthesis.

Check out Ben Eater's series on the "world's worst video card".

https://eater.net/vga

Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by Karsteski »

swayvil wrote: post #73

The 0.1fps time scale makes no difference to people living within this minecraft universe. From their perspective a second is a second and a day is a day. Funny. See Greg Egan's PERMUTATION CITY for more on that.

Permutation City is one of the best Sci-Fi books I've ever read. Would definitely recommend.

Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by colpabar »

dubiousconst281 wrote: post #25
reimertz wrote: post #2

This is truly amazing. Comment from one of the creators; This build does NOT run in real time. It runs on MCHPRS, the server developed by StackDoubleFlow, which speeds up the game roughly 10-20,000x while running redstone. That brings the framerate to a much more reasonable 0.1fps, so the long timelapses in the video only took 9 hours to record in in total.

It's mind blowing how much effort they put into this, the MCHPRS server even JIT compiles redstone into native code using Cranelift: https://github.com/MCHPR/MCHPRS/blob/master/docs/Redpiler.md It really saddens me that their post was removed from r/Minecraft, for crediting a server by including its IP address for literally one second in the video.

half a second!

Re: 1Hz CPU made in Minecraft running Minecraft at 0.1fps [video]

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Post by PaulHoule »

PixyMisa wrote: post #137
sitkack wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counter, decoder, resistor ladder, op-amp per color channel and you have component video. I am not sure how I could generate the timing info. I suppose there is much higher freq parts, one could do direct digital synthesis.

Check out Ben Eater's series on the "world's worst video card". https://eater.net/vga

It's not that hard to build a display controller but it's problematic for projects like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU5989eVRZs

because that kind of system competes with Raspberry Pi which puts a lot of downward pressure on what is an "acceptable" price.

Real 8-bitters used custom chips for their display controllers, but if you don't use custom chips you need a few handfuls of logic chips and you wind up with something about as expensive as the video card linked to above. To justify a custom chip you need big volume. You can make a display controller from an FPGA or Microcontroller, it's probably cheaper than one made from small chips, but still not cheap enough... And there's something absurd about using a much more powerful part than the CPU to run the display.

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