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The internet is already over

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Re: The internet is already over

#12
Kind of a silly article but I agree with the premise. Social media is dying, but I'm not sure the argument is as strong for anything else.

People are withdrawing from public Internet forums like Twitter. Twitter is so obscenely devoid of value that your average person has caught on and stays away.

But think about this - if you could plot the number of hours I spent on video chat (Zoom, Discord, Snapchat, Facetime, WebEx, etc.) over the years, starting circa 2018, it would be a near linear increase. Since there are only 24 hours in a day it has to hit a limit eventually, but when? All that time is the "private" Internet, 1-to-1 or very small groups. Meanwhile I'm using Instagram primarily for DMs and ignoring most of the main features of the app.

Re: The internet is already over

#13

I was going to say the article is written in the style of Bill Hicks with some George Carlin, but then I remember that everyone is freaked out right now and "end of the world" themes are popular. No the internet is not going away, unless of course the world does. Some current concerns from an American point of view: - An ex President may be indicted soon, the first time in US history - The ex President threatens the…

Thank you for that compact summary of the state of the world. I completely agree. Reading those 12 simple points was like doomscrolling, except I didn't even have to scroll, which feels so efficient!

Re: The internet is already over

#15

The author makes a lot of witty, erudite References – a method that has annoyingly become popular and is often mistaken as "good writing" – but I think he has missed a simple and obvious truth: culture is determined by fashion. Not fashion as in clothing, but fashion as in ideas and things that are trendy for a time then fade away, replaced by the next thing. The next thing is often an indirect reaction to the previo…

It is true, trends are immense social forces but also very much absurd and chaotic. It works until it doesn't and there's another wave.

Re: The internet is already over

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post #9

I was going to say the article is written in the style of Bill Hicks with some George Carlin, but then I remember that everyone is freaked out right now and "end of the world" themes are popular. No the internet is not going away, unless of course the world does. Some current concerns from an American point of view: - An ex President may be indicted soon, the first time in US history - The ex President threatens the…

You've missed the point, the author explains how some things are simply older than the internet and will probably outlive it (the night, the sea). I think it's the Lindy effect. P.s. do you have to make this about politics?

Did you put the author in any context or are you trying to gaslight the response to a highly political article?

Re: The internet is already over

#18
Instead of approaching the author as right or wrong, approach the article in terms of how it might be useful for thinking about the future of the internet.

Many even here on HN frame things in a divisive way.

The article asks us to imagine the future. That is an interesting place to begin…

Re: The internet is already over

#19
As long as clickbait drivel like this is upvoted, and advertising is legal, there will be internet.

And after that, when we return to the primordial ooze of AOLs and Prodigys and CompuServes, and even before that to UseNet and BBSes, when there is barely a commercial entity left, but there is still a wire to shove weird binary non-euclydian poetry into, there will be internet.

And even after, when illicit shortwave modems screech their crude 300 baud message across the planet, and very slowly a fat gray cat, Cheshire-grinning a question about a sandwich, progressively renders into a cracked and crudely lit LCD, an old meme will take form, and there, in the gray matter, there will be internet.

Nobody really knows when the body dies. After brain death, and then organ failure, and all the electricity's gone, a rotting corpse still feeds the world, mother's diesel for the biological engine of life. Who knows where the internet will go, or for how long, or in what strange aeons it will return? Who can say if ours was even the first?

Re: The internet is already over

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've missed the point, the author explains how some things are simply older than the internet and will probably outlive it (the night, the sea). I think it's the Lindy effect. P.s. do you have to make this about politics?

Did you put the author in any context or are you trying to gaslight the response to a highly political article?

Is it a highly political article? There's one short section on politics, but there's definitely nothing on Trump, and I don't see how his indictment is particularly relevant...
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