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Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by thunky »

netsharc wrote: post #345
canoebuilder wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The “actual facts” are the numbers represented in the graph. (My bad, I thought that would be clear) The shots were sold as “If you get this shot you won’t get the virus” but apparently people still are getting the virus. And not just getting the virus, but dying from it. And dying from it in greater numbers than before the shots! WTF is up with that?! Clearly the shots don’t work as they were supposed to. And they a…

Sorry, that is poor application of the scientific method. The blogger - and you - have made hypotheses, and conclude (the page:) "How can anyone view this chart as evidence of anything except - at best - complete vaccine failure?" and (you:) "Clearly the shots don’t work as they were supposed to.". You've concluded these things because emotionally that's what you want to happen, because (I'll assume) you're afraid[1]…

> Is the graph even real, or is a graph from a random blog good enough because it supports your viewpoint?

It's Google's chart. Search for "covid", then select Israel from the country drop down.

The poster you replied to is asserting that this chart should look much better by now, given the promises made when the vaccine when it was introduced. I don't see why you need "a long detailed scientific paper" to agree or disagree with this.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by inferiorhuman »

ckw wrote: post #294
inferiorhuman wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be Vinay Prasad. Regardless of where he works he's still compared mask and vaccine mandates to the Third Reich. Most public health officials have a much lower tolerance for death or lasting injury than Prasad does. Even amongst laypeople Prasad's tolerance for someone elsedying is much higher than that of those other people. A pattern of gross incompetence is the…

This is pure ad hominem. Are his claims false? Is his reasoning unsound?

> Are his claims false?

Yes

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by phtrivier »

colonwqbang wrote: post #199
phtrivier wrote: post #190

Headline slightly misleading. It will be interpreted as "vaccine too dangerous for under 50". Here Denmark will keep vaccinating young relatives of people at risk. Which may make sense, or not. Who knows ? Even all doctors are not 100% confident about anything anymore. At least it goes slighly against the narrative of "everyone's government is deep in the pocket of big pharma", and more into the narrative of "everyon…

I suppose it should say "no longer offering free vaccinations".

Not even sure, I suppose young relatives of heavily at risk people will not have to pay for next jabs (assuming the other jabs also came at no cost, which I assume is true given Denmark's réputation, but I might be wrong.)

My understanding (again, I might be mistaken) is they the correct headline should be "Denmark to focus booster campaign on at-risk people".

(Which is much less clikbaity, I guess ;) ?)

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by ckw »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #412
ckw wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is pure ad hominem. Are his claims false? Is his reasoning unsound?

> Are his claims false? Yes

So engage with those. How are those reading this thread edified by you simply claiming they are false, but presenting no evidence?

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by inferiorhuman »

ckw wrote: post #414
inferiorhuman wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are his claims false? Yes

So engage with those. How are those reading this thread edified by you simply claiming they are false, but presenting no evidence?

By virtue of the fact that neither myself nor that guy live in Nazi Germany is prima facie evidence that he's not worth taking seriously. If you shit your pants and then proceed to smear it all over yourself and then the ceiling while humming the Bonanza theme song don't be surprised when people don't engage you.

If you want an earnest discussion find someone making an earnest argument.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by ckw »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #415
ckw wrote: post #414

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So engage with those. How are those reading this thread edified by you simply claiming they are false, but presenting no evidence?

By virtue of the fact that neither myself nor that guy live in Nazi Germany is prima facie evidence that he's not worth taking seriously. If you shit your pants and then proceed to smear it all over yourself and then the ceiling while humming the Bonanza theme song don't be surprised when people don't engage you. If you want an earnest discussion find someone making an earnest argument.

You make no arguments. You adduce no facts. You repeatedly commit logical fallacies. On the other hand, I find Prasad's claims of fact true and arguments persuasive. This is a pretty easy call.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by inferiorhuman »

ckw wrote: post #416
inferiorhuman wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By virtue of the fact that neither myself nor that guy live in Nazi Germany is prima facie evidence that he's not worth taking seriously. If you shit your pants and then proceed to smear it all over yourself and then the ceiling while humming the Bonanza theme song don't be surprised when people don't engage you. If you want an earnest discussion find someone making an earnest argument.

You make no arguments. You adduce no facts. You repeatedly commit logical fallacies. On the other hand, I find Prasad's claims of fact true and arguments persuasive. This is a pretty easy call.

There seems to be some confusion. There is no earnest discussion to be had. I'm not addressing the content of his arguments because there is no content.

If you think that there's a persuasive comparison to be made between exterminating millions of people on the basis of their religion and vaccines, that's great. You've just plainly articulated why I'm not bothering to engage you either.

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