Does anyone know if the new evidence exonorates him or if it simply proved that the case and trial were mishandled?
Only procedural, no exoneration at all.
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Karl Pilkington was eating a knob at night a decade prior.
I could eat a knob at night.
The Ricky Gervais Podcast, on the original iPod. The kids will never know how magical that was. Monkey news, Karl's inventions, "None of this now needed, baby dead".
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#83When I finished the podcast I was not at all convinced of his innocence. For me was 50/50 or even 60/40 against innocence. Just my takeaway/opinion of course.. EDIT However, reading both of the AP News articles on this now, it does serve to sway me more toward his innocence. Crazy that the prosecutors withheld this at that time.. Par for the course unfortunately I guess. Seems as though the SA office is trying to do…
I was 50/50 after the podcast but Jay's interview after the podcast heavily swayed me towards Adnan's guilt. Jay was't a suspect, but definitely knew about it and where the body was. He gave conflicting testimony to the police because he was dealing drugs out of his grandmother's house and didn't want himself or his family in prison. (Using these hostile testimonies to undermine the official one entered in court is v…
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#84Does anyone know if the new evidence exonorates him or if it simply proved that the case and trial were mishandled?
Brady violation by original prosecution team (they did not let the defense know of other evidence). The current prosecution did the right thing.
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#85'Serial' was the podcast that launched all podcasts. It was the defining podcast. It isn't that it was hyper monetized or incredibly financially successful; simply it showed that the audience was there. It has over 340 million listens as of 2018 . With this eviction of conviction, I suspect that number will be over a billion. It is fitting that it has come full circle and fulfilled the ultimate purpose of investigati…
> 'Serial' was the podcast that launched all podcasts.
It feels like we were listening to This American Life in podcast form in the car for at least five years before Serial even existed. And Serial was being marketed on TAL during what I'd describe as TAL's slow decline from popularity, with Ira personally shilling for Serial and teasing the first entire episode on TAL, IIRC.
If either of these were responsible for launching the modern podcast era, I'd point at TAL, not Serial.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
> For me was 50/50 or even 60/40 against innocence. Totally, but the standard for conviction is "beyond a reasonable doubt". By that standard, a 40% chance of innocence means "not guilty". I don't know whether the law has ever translated "reasonable doubt" into a specific percentage, but I have to imagine it's less than 10%?
It's obviously subjective, but a YouGov poll in the UK found that 47% of pelt required 99% accuracy or higher to be considered beyond reasonable doubt. Only 12% set the bar below 90%. Source: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/1...
20% said they would require 100% certainty, which is equivalent to stating that not even the most obviously guilty person in existence deserves to be convicted. I'd posit that this is more so evidence that the general population's knowledge of probability is abysmal.
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#87When I finished the podcast I was not at all convinced of his innocence. For me was 50/50 or even 60/40 against innocence. Just my takeaway/opinion of course.. EDIT However, reading both of the AP News articles on this now, it does serve to sway me more toward his innocence. Crazy that the prosecutors withheld this at that time.. Par for the course unfortunately I guess. Seems as though the SA office is trying to do…
I was 50/50 after the podcast but Jay's interview after the podcast heavily swayed me towards Adnan's guilt. Jay was't a suspect, but definitely knew about it and where the body was. He gave conflicting testimony to the police because he was dealing drugs out of his grandmother's house and didn't want himself or his family in prison. (Using these hostile testimonies to undermine the official one entered in court is v…
I don’t remember whether Jay had an alibi. Did he? One question I always had is why he was not a suspect.
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#88Serial was blowout success, but flawed in many ways. For me, chief amongst these is not updating the podcast with new (and potentially exculpatory) information as it came to light over the years. What really progressed the case was the Undisclosed podcast [0]. Rabia Chaudry, a childhood friend of Adnan and an attorney, first took Adnan's story to Sarah Koenig, who documented it in the Serial podcast. But in Undisclos…
I hated Serial so goddamn much. I honestly felt like it did a terrible job of establishing much reasonable doubt and it just sort of... ends? Would you still recommend Undisclosed?
Re: ‘Serial’ case: Adnan Syed released, conviction tossed
#89Serial was blowout success, but flawed in many ways. For me, chief amongst these is not updating the podcast with new (and potentially exculpatory) information as it came to light over the years. What really progressed the case was the Undisclosed podcast [0]. Rabia Chaudry, a childhood friend of Adnan and an attorney, first took Adnan's story to Sarah Koenig, who documented it in the Serial podcast. But in Undisclos…
Not listened to Undisclosed, but I did read a fair amount of Rabia Chaudry's book, and to be blunt, it was very off-putting. She was critical of any objective take/perspective. Her presentation was basically the Truth: Adnan Syed is innocent. Anything that supports that statement was accepted relatively uncritically, and anything that didn't was always suspect.
BTW, she's not merely a friend - she's his relative.
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#90'Serial' was the podcast that launched all podcasts. It was the defining podcast. It isn't that it was hyper monetized or incredibly financially successful; simply it showed that the audience was there. It has over 340 million listens as of 2018 . With this eviction of conviction, I suspect that number will be over a billion. It is fitting that it has come full circle and fulfilled the ultimate purpose of investigati…
This assertion has always been strange to me. This American Life was releasing their episodes as podcasts for something like 7 years before they decided to do Serial. Shows like Adam Corolla, WTF with Marc Maron, the BS Report, Joe Rogan Experience, etc were all very successful before Serial. Major media companies like NPR, CBC, BBC were releasing podcasts and dedicated podcast companies like TWiT.tv had existed for…
I listened to at least one proto-podcast back in the pre-iPod era of the late 90s: Pointless Audio with Kevin Pereira. It's still available in some form: https://youtu.be/XXqxUAzt6u4