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I accidentally started a movement – Policing the Police by scraping court data

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Re: I accidentally started a movement – Policing the Police by scraping court data

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a while back I created www.bartcrimes.com to publish police reports which were intentionally hidden behind a mailing list you must get approved to be a member of. Turns out, the public loves this kind of thing.

That's cool but why are the most recent entries from Sept 2021? Did BART do something even more effective to stop these updates from getting out?

Re: I accidentally started a movement – Policing the Police by scraping court data

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PDAP is not crypto based, and there are no plans to make it so. The message you pasted here was about a meeting taken last year with someone who was proposing this. It isn't something the community or leadership was interested in. PDAP is a non-profit, not a crypto startup.

Re: I accidentally started a movement – Policing the Police by scraping court data

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could you elaborate exactly where the filth is here? I think I get it, but I'm not super-well versed enough to understand what the motive would be here.

Edit: Seems like this criticism doesn't apply to this project. I think that's good. What I wrote below is just an explanation of why someone might view crypto as a red flag in a charity project.

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I think the basic idea is that this web3 crypto stuff is pretty scammy. It would be like finding out the not-for-profit you were thinking about working with also sells timeshares - maybe it is, against all odds, legit, but still not a good look and kind of a red flag.

Another take on it is - if I want to volunteer at a place I don't expect to get paid. If I'm working for payment, I don't want my payment to be in NFTs. So, the web3 intrusion into this idea is unnecessary and doesn't fit for either volunteers or employees.

Re: I accidentally started a movement – Policing the Police by scraping court data

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The community has been writing scrapers since the beginning, but it's a huge task. We've also written scraper templates, since many counties use the same systems. https://github.com/Police-Data-Accessibility-Project/PDAP-Sc...

Yep, I see that there are a lot of existing scrapers. Getting those up and running automatically on a backend host will make things a lot smoother. Also, I recommend using Playwright instead of Selenium. I'm in the Discord now and will be hanging out, so looking forward to chatting more about this and contributing.

Thanks for taking a look! DM me on Discord if you'd like to chat about this.

Re: I accidentally started a movement – Policing the Police by scraping court data

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post #19

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could you elaborate exactly where the filth is here? I think I get it, but I'm not super-well versed enough to understand what the motive would be here.

Edit: Seems like this criticism doesn't apply to this project. I think that's good. What I wrote below is just an explanation of why someone might view crypto as a red flag in a charity project. --- I think the basic idea is that this web3 crypto stuff is pretty scammy. It would be like finding out the not-for-profit you were thinking about working with also sells timeshares - maybe it is, against all odds, legit, bu…

That's one of the many reasons why we abandoned the crypto idea after some initial optimism and research.

Re: I accidentally started a movement – Policing the Police by scraping court data

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Post like this are interesting because as an idea you would think that HN would the best target. Even if no one here provides a a single character of code they can provide insight Into pitfalls and experiences they’ve run into when doing this sort of thing. I hope the comment section are fortuitous in advice.

Yep! It's really helpful to see where people find problems and want to jump in.

Re: I accidentally started a movement – Policing the Police by scraping court data

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post #19

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could you elaborate exactly where the filth is here? I think I get it, but I'm not super-well versed enough to understand what the motive would be here.

Edit: Seems like this criticism doesn't apply to this project. I think that's good. What I wrote below is just an explanation of why someone might view crypto as a red flag in a charity project. --- I think the basic idea is that this web3 crypto stuff is pretty scammy. It would be like finding out the not-for-profit you were thinking about working with also sells timeshares - maybe it is, against all odds, legit, bu…

Nothing about PDAP is web3, or crypto based, though some community members have suggested it (especially last year among all the Web3 hype.) Turning into a web3 company is not happening.

Re: I accidentally started a movement – Policing the Police by scraping court data

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could you elaborate exactly where the filth is here? I think I get it, but I'm not super-well versed enough to understand what the motive would be here.

It certainly set off my alarm bells for people who try to do pointless blockchain stuff for personal profit (or I guess fun and street-cred/CV-lines).

That doesn't mean it has to be the case here. But at first glance a DOA seems more like a detriment here (police can outspend citizens) and NFTs are NFTs, no explanation needed I suspect. Suggestion 3 might have merit, but storing the data in the blockchain (instead of just some hashes for timestamping) makes it look like some overambitious vanity project again.

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