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Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair
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#72Apple started offering home repair kits for iPhone this year, but they’re super difficult to use: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/technology/personaltech/a... There’s speculation that offering the kits is an attempt to head off right-to-repair legislation. But seeing this redesign, I wonder to what degree the repair program is incentivizing repairability within apple’s corporate structure. Now that “profit/loss pe…
> but they’re super difficult to use I can't read the link as it's paywalled: but my understanding of the Apple tools is that they're hilariously over-engineered; not that they're hard to use.
The tools are made to guarantee a factory-quality repair, complete with stock levels of part fit and water resistance, regardless of the skill level of who’s using it. That can’t really be done in a way that’s not overengineered and bulky.
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#73It's good to see Apple behaving and recognising the momentum the Rights to Repair movement has got globally in the last few years (especially in the large market of EU, and now picking up in Asia). But I think iFixit has been too generous in giving the iPhone 14 a repairability score of 7 out of 10 when Apple still places additional unwanted hurdles and control through software: > We are hearing reports that Apple is…
Well I mean it also cuts down on their repair costs quite substantially. Repairing anything but the front screen has been a nightmare since the iPhone 8
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#74This has gotta be cus of pressure from EU? Like if they didnt make them more repairable it might be illegal to sell them here soon.
As usual with these things, it's a convergence of factors. People caring, both in and outside Apple. French repair index (this update earned them 0,5 points / 10 compared to previous gen). Internal cost pressure on warranties, etc. "The time is right", i.e less things to optimize/design for in other areas (already solved problems).
Probably many other factors that only mechanical engineers and product owners at Apple can answer.
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#75Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
The EU pressure would be in the domains of software distribution (Apple thinks third-party app stores are just malware) and charger compatibility (Apple still holds onto Lightning). They've yet to talk about either of these at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of these requirements is either geolocked or exclusive to EU models.
> Apple thinks third-party app stores are just malware Apple is greedy not stupid. They don't want third party app stores because it would cause competition and interfere with their almost entirely vertically integrated consumer milking machine... they don't care about malware, they care about control, controlling the user, to make sure they spend as much money as possible with Apple. Notice that they have been incre…
I can assure you there are plenty of people within the Apple organization that genuinely care about security and privacy. And if Apple happens to profit due to those efforts, all the better. Not everything is some evil nefarious ploy.
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#77Now just put a usb-c port on the phone and allow me to use any web browser.
Web browsers, like communism, is a red herring. There would be absolutely no point to using alternative browser engines on an iPhone unless they got super special second party access. Not being able to run any downloaded code, no JIT, or extensions would make them useless, and allowing those things effectively breaks the iOS security model. Most obviously with screen time, and parental control, but Apple also disables their JIT in lockdown mode.
I think the sanest compromise would be adopting Firefox, Chrome, and/or Edge as second party browsers. I guess we will see what happens in 2024 because I doubt it will be opening the floodgates.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Increased repairability != enough repairability, as per the comments here. Beyond the article, Apple products still aren’t as repairable as the Right to Repair Movement would like, because people still have to peruse thousand-page highly technical manuals and buy specialized equipment if they wanted to fix certain parts of their Apple devices.
You're conflating multiple issues. Having the right to repair is valuable and desirable, even if it's not actually easy to do the repair. I think we've gone too far down the road of not owning anything we buy, and thus having no rights to use things outside of narrow legal agreements nobody even reads. Making the device easier to repair is also desirable, both for Apple and for third parties, because these things bre…
> right to repair is valuable and desirable, even if it's not actually easy to do the repair
Huh? If the act of repairing is difficult (and extremely, in Apple’s case), then do you actually have the right, or is it only a right on paper? Is Right to Repair nothing more than printing out manuals no matter how difficult the process of repair itself is?
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#79Now just put a usb-c port on the phone and allow me to use any web browser.
Not just USB C, but USB C 3.1 or higher. If they put USB C 2.0 I'll rage.
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#80I’m not sure I care much about repairability. For me, makers should have the freedom to design products as they wish. I don’t think that phones and laptops would be as light and portable as iPhones and Macs are if Apple was inhibited by the Right to Repair movement from arranging internal components in such a jampacked way. I also think that makers should have the freedom to design computers whose software tightly in…
Right to repair is a societal and environmental topic. You personally not seeing a benefit to it is mostly beside the point: think about battery disposal laws, toxic material regulations, wireless power limitations, available frequencies, etc. These mostly matter at scale, taking input from single individuals would probably not land on the right trade-offs for the society as a whole.