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Humane.js 2.1 released - simple modern notification system

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Re: Humane.js 2.1 released - simple modern notification system

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dfischer wrote: post #20

"A simple, modern, framework-independent, well-tested, unobtrusive, notification system." Design wise, the default is pretty obtrusive . Nice library though. Thanks.

Thanks, yeah the big box apparently isn't a big hit as something more subtle like libnotify, I hope more designers come in and share their ideas, I like the jackedup that was submitted. The idea of humane message (which wasn't mine) was somewhat like the bigbox, which I liked, I think the unobtrusive part comes in that the user doesn't have to click to remove it, and getting out of the way when you want to see what's behind it. Thanks for the comment.

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danneu wrote: post #19

I think notifications must stack to be usable. My experience with websites that queue up notifications (the old thesixtyone.com) is that you sort of pause, sit there, and wait for them to finish up so you see what they say. A better experience is for them to stack up in the corner so you can read them, then click them away once you're done.

The idea of humane messages is that they require no user input to close. I do like stacking idea, maybe a future release. For now, setting the timeout to be shorter, or forcing new messages provides a workaround.

Re: Humane.js 2.1 released - simple modern notification system

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danneu wrote: post #19

I think notifications must stack to be usable. My experience with websites that queue up notifications (the old thesixtyone.com) is that you sort of pause, sit there, and wait for them to finish up so you see what they say. A better experience is for them to stack up in the corner so you can read them, then click them away once you're done.

I had one more thought on this @danneu, I believe Growl stacks? I'm not a Mac user so I'm not sure if that is true. On Linux, Ubuntu libnotify does not, nor does Gnome Shell's notifications, two leading desktop environments for Linux and I've used both without having that desire for them to stack. Not saying stacking is not better, but I think its usable, and has its pros. E.g. how many should stack reasonably without being an issue, having a bunch stacked can crowd a portion of the screen. This lib may be able handle that in the future, but one of its strengths is that its easy for users to create vastly different themes partly because it doesn't stack. A relevant point of discussion however.

Re: Humane.js 2.1 released - simple modern notification system

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netghost wrote: post #3
krmmalik wrote: post #2

Not to be inflammatory in anyway but how is this any better than some of the existing libraries, such as jGrowl etc? I'm looking for some 'arguments' to seriously consider something like this - Thank you ;-)

This one doesn't have a dependency on jQuery if that's a selling point for you. There is also an option to wait for mouse / keyboard input before dismissing, which is kind of nice as well. Otherwise it seems similar to most of the others.

I would also add mobile webkit support, and ability to create themes with Stylus (which renders IE gradient fallbacks, easy vendor prefixing, etc). I'm not sure if the landscape has changed much but I haven't seen many that support CSS transitions. At the end of the day its just a fun experiment that some people may like and other may not :)

Re: Humane.js 2.1 released - simple modern notification system

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callmevlad wrote: post #13
jtchang wrote: post #7

It looks cool but why are you popping up a giant box in front of my face? That HAS to violate some sort of User Experience. If it doesn't I am going to say it violates mine .

I remember implementing the precursor to this idea by Aza Raskin ( http://code.google.com/p/humanmsg/ ), and users hated it. "Get that giant box out of my face" was by far the top complaint.

Thanks for your implementation, served me many projects! Yeah I wonder what Aza had to say about that complaint, seems to be similar here :)

Re: Humane.js 2.1 released - simple modern notification system

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Post by wavded »

sry_not4sale wrote: post #16

I think you should change the default template to libnotify, so much nicer. Also, the notifications behave strange when hovering over them with the mouse... they shrink onhover, then on the next hover they dismiss. This is on Chromium 15.

You probably just timed it right to get that behavior, bigbox for example, shrinks on hover, other themes will fade or whatever. If you are 'hovered' it will continue the animation at whatever point you were at when it goes to close the notification.

Re: Humane.js 2.1 released - simple modern notification system

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Post by gojomo »

wavded wrote: post #22
danneu wrote: post #19

I think notifications must stack to be usable. My experience with websites that queue up notifications (the old thesixtyone.com) is that you sort of pause, sit there, and wait for them to finish up so you see what they say. A better experience is for them to stack up in the corner so you can read them, then click them away once you're done.

The idea of humane messages is that they require no user input to close. I do like stacking idea, maybe a future release. For now, setting the timeout to be shorter, or forcing new messages provides a workaround.

I find messages that close themselves very inhumane; I can easily miss them if I look away or switch tabs, or they can disappear while I'm trying to understand them, with no way to bring them back.

My top feature request would be a 'stays up until dismissed or navigated away from' option.

Re: Humane.js 2.1 released - simple modern notification system

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Post by callmevlad »

wavded wrote: post #25
callmevlad wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember implementing the precursor to this idea by Aza Raskin ( http://code.google.com/p/humanmsg/ ), and users hated it. "Get that giant box out of my face" was by far the top complaint.

Thanks for your implementation, served me many projects! Yeah I wonder what Aza had to say about that complaint, seems to be similar here :)

Sorry, my statement was misleading. I didn't implement that library, but rather integrated it into an existing project of mine.
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