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Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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Post by eisa01 »

freetime2 wrote: post #126

Just checked my Sony Android TV from 2019 and found it is drawing 16W while turned off. Turning off the Chromecast built-in service, the remote start service, and enabling Eco mode did not seem to make a difference. I already disliked this TV and was unlikely to buy another from Sony (for example occasionally it will “crash” while in standby mode and stop responding to any input, requiring me to unplug it and plug it…

It takes a minute or two to settle down

If that still fails, try disabling wifi and disconnect the ethernet

Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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Post by kalleboo »

elcomet wrote: post #163
Rizz wrote: post #105

A modern phone with a 5 Ah ( ~ 18.5 Wh) battery can run for many hours streaming to a builtin screen, meaning it uses far less (anything over 45 minutes is more energy efficient) than a chromecast despite doing more. Same scenario with a laptop with a 60 Wh battery, which can also run a long time in idle, and even while streaming, and is able to resume from sleep in a second. Running more than 2.5 hours on battery me…

Your smartphone does much less, not more. When you are casting your smartphone on a built-in tv, the TV is doing all the work (downloading and decoding the signal). Your phone is just a fancy remote control. The Chromecast is downloading the video and sending it to the TV on the contrary.

The person you're replying to is talking about playing the video directly on the phone, not casting.

An iPhone 14 Pro Max can play streamed video on the internal display for literally 25 hours on a single charge.

edit: the 14 Pro Max has a 17 Wh battery, which means it draws 0.7 W streaming and displaying video.

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Post by a1369209993 »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #153
closewith wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thermal mass of the air is tiny - cooling it is negligible. Chest freezers have better insulation and door seals, which is why they're more efficient.

> The thermal mass of the air is tiny > Chest freezers have better [...] door seals Hmm. Is it outlandish to think that a modern standing freezer with working seals will let less air out the seals than is exchanged by opening the door even a couple of times a week? Modern standing freezers are starting to get drawers with sides in them now, presumably for reducing air loss while it's open. And seals are practically a…

> a modern standing freezer with working seals will let less air out the seals than is exchanged by opening the door

I think the idea is that the seals can conduct heat, and do so much better than whatever abitrarily-sophisticated thermal isolation is in the walls of the freezer, not that the airflow through the seals is carrying any significant amount of heat.

Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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Post by drusepth »

I would imagine most people don't go behind their TV hook up their little HDMI dongle every time they want to use it, so it seems reasonable to have a comparable wattage drawn when it's built-in -- but this is significantly higher than what it looks like an idle Chromecast draws (1.8-2W). Why is it so much more?

Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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Post by bscphil »

paganel wrote: post #121
baq wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of reasons to not get one and they don't matter since for me no other TV technology even remotely makes sense due to picture quality being so vastly superior than anything except plasma.

> vastly superior than anything except plasma. One more reason for me to cherish my 2011 plasma TV. Also, it has none of that smart-tv non-sense, which is a big plus.

> my 2011 plasma TV

My experience, having now bought several used plasmas from about that era, is that they tend to have extremely bright black points, comparable to a ~2015 mid-tier LCD screen. Fairly cheap modern LCDs seem to have superior image quality with sharper pixels as well.

Is this not your experience? Have I just been unlucky and purchased some aging panels? When I got into the market, I was of the impression that plasmas were renowned for their high contrast ratios, but I have been less than impressed.

Burn-in is extremely severe as well.

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Post by laundermaf »

thro388 wrote: post #169
harry8 wrote: post #167

I've got a sony google bravia and have disabled everything I can think of, chromecast, remote start, bluetooth etc. Cannot get it under 12W when switched off. Can't believe I got suckered like that. There really should be consequences. Nobody would reasonably think their tv is sucking juice like that when turned off.

You could propably return it as defective. At least in EU there is a regulation about maximal standby power usage.

How would you even go about this though? What store will accept a return “because it consumes too much power when off?” They most likely don’t even have tools available to verify the claim.

Even if you ship it to Sony, when will you see your refund?

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Post by kuratkull »

pcdoodle wrote: post #60
blinkingled wrote: post #18

I have a 2020 model I bought from Costco and as slow and shitty the UI is it also still burns 16W in standby. There isn't a way to disable Chromecast either so thanks for nothing Sony and Google. I need a dumb tv and Nvidia sheild. Edit: I take the standby power usage part back. After settings changes including Eco stuff and something to do with remote start and a restart it's at 4W which is very acceptable. The UI i…

4W is still pretty bad. Any modern computer will gladly sit under 1W ready for a quick wake up.

Recently started monitoring all my appliances. 1W is what I also found to be the numbert that some reasonable devices (PC sleep, TV off) sit at. Although my subwoofer takes 5W at idle, my PC monitor takes 5W at idle, etc. Looking into some Zigbee smart sockets for my home setup now.

Re: Sony Android TVs waste 25W in standby due to built-in Google Chromecast

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Post by iso1631 »

explaingarlic wrote: post #95
eisa01 wrote: post #2

This may not sound bad, but it's the equivalent of 200 kWh per year and the set is only supposed to draw 0.5-1W from the specifications This would cost more than 50 EUR per year at current prices, and is sizeable compared to the average German citizens consumption of 1500 kWh electricity Let's just say this is not ideal given the current energy shortage in Europe...

This would cost more than 50 EUR per year Try: €200 at current forecasts :/

Doesn't matter in the UK, there's no incentive to turn off the set to save yourself £20 a month, because the taxpayer will subsidise your excess electric use thanks to the latest idiotic socialist idea to simply get future generations to pay for today's excess use.
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