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Watch a VC use my name to sell a con

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Re: Watch a VC use my name to sell a con

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Anyone got a readable link please

If you can't read that I wonder what you would have done back in the terminal days when you wouldn't have had an option. Everybody back then seemed to be able to read it with no problem. Maybe youngster's eyesight has become worse for some unexplained reason.

Re: Watch a VC use my name to sell a con

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I hope this signals the end of folks walking on egg shells around Arrington. He's no longer a "newsman". He's no longer going to make or break every startup that ends up on AOLCrunch. He's just an investor hoping for deal flow. An investor who's proven he's probably not the guy you'd want to work with, probably not the guy you'd want to partner with, probably not the guy who will ever be on anyone's side but his own.…

I don't think he was ever able to "make or break" a startup.

see: quora, qwiki and I'm sure others. Constant fanning on a major tech site definitely can help.

Re: Watch a VC use my name to sell a con

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wait, does jwz really expect us to believe that he doesn't know who arrington is? I mean, the techcrunch conference afterparty two years ago was at his night club .. and I am pretty sure i saw both of them there.

I would have been surprised and disappointed if Zawinski knew who Arrington was. Why would he? Zawinski is past the valley tech scene.

Re: Watch a VC use my name to sell a con

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wait, does jwz really expect us to believe that he doesn't know who arrington is? I mean, the techcrunch conference afterparty two years ago was at his night club .. and I am pretty sure i saw both of them there.

In this instance, identification of the individual VC responsible for this specific instance of The Lie is not important. Leaving him unnamed helps us abstract out the pattern to its most condensed brown residue, so we can recognize it on our feet should walk at night in the park, or frequent certain scene sites. Also, it's not that jwz doesn't know the dude, it's that jwz just doesn't give a fuck. [Edit: Just asked…

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Re: Watch a VC use my name to sell a con

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post #34
post #26

wait, does jwz really expect us to believe that he doesn't know who arrington is? I mean, the techcrunch conference afterparty two years ago was at his night club .. and I am pretty sure i saw both of them there.

In this instance, identification of the individual VC responsible for this specific instance of The Lie is not important. Leaving him unnamed helps us abstract out the pattern to its most condensed brown residue, so we can recognize it on our feet should walk at night in the park, or frequent certain scene sites. Also, it's not that jwz doesn't know the dude, it's that jwz just doesn't give a fuck. [Edit: Just asked…

when I re-read it I can see that is it more that he doesn't give a fuck. and thanks for clarifying with him.

Re: Watch a VC use my name to sell a con

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> What _is_ true is that for a VC's business model to work, it's necessary for _you_ to give up _your_ life in order for _him_ to become richer. Isn't this more or less the case for any profits-go-to-owners business model? Or rather, any business model where employees are viewed as calculated costs and not owners worthy of a commiserate portion of the profit? I've often wondered how a different ownership model would…

> Isn't this more or less the case for any profits-go-to-owners business model? Almost every industry out there manages to make good profits without their employees having to give up their lives.

I should have clarified. I was trying to make an observation on "employment" in general, whether you're treated with dignity as an employee or not. Even if you love your job, work I suppose I think there might be a model out there that better reflects ownership and the concepts of who earned what. More than anything, I don't believe the owner "earns" all of the profits of a company. The [owner + every last other employee in the organization] "earned" the profits. But while every other employee is more or less capped in their earnings, the owner gets the profit.

I understand the concept: take on a big risk, be rewarded for said risk with big gains. I suppose I just don't think anyone should be rewarded for winning a lottery of circumstance. If I owned a company, I don't think I'd see myself as having "earned" tens of millions of dollars and I don't think I'd be OK with taking home millions while the hundreds of staff beneath me did all of the brute work.

But then again, I've never owned a company. Maybe if I did I'd feel a whole lot differently about the whole thing.

Re: Watch a VC use my name to sell a con

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I would love to hear PG's comment / viewpoint on this whole issue. I have done 3 startups so far (1 VC funded, 2 bootstrapped) and I work very hard because I love it BUT I never ever work at the expense of the time with my kids and anyone saying you have to give up your life to find success in the startup world is just misleading in a big way. There are tons of examples of highly successful people across many industr…

PG's described startups as 'compressing working life into a few years' (http://paulgraham.com/wealth.html)

But Arrington and Zawinski aren't talking about founders and their startups. They're talking about working too hard on somebody else's startup. Totally different thing.

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