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Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by deltasevennine »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #414
deltasevennine wrote: post #315

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>Actors need to go do some stage acting and learn how to e n u n c i a t e and project their voices. Hard disagree. I want realism. The sophistication of modern audiences is now so high that the level of enunciation and clarity in older movies now sounds comical to modern audiences. Believe it or not this old style speak you see in Older movies was Literally artificial and made for acting: https://www.youtube.com/wat…

The sophistication of modern audiences is now so high that the level of enunciation and clarity in older movies now sounds comical to modern audiences. My mind immediately went to that scene in idiocracy - "You talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded"

That wasn't the intention. Watch the video. If anything old style talking in movies sounds less intelligent and artificial.

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Post by simonh »

daniel-cussen wrote: post #570
elteto wrote: post #562

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I wish I could turn subtitles on for this comment. I have no idea what you are saying.

SUBTITLES: The film industry makes high art as well as common fare. The high art is what the artists want to make and enjoy but it has a very small market. The common fare is what pays the bills, because it sells like 100x more tickets than high art. High art = caviar, Shakespeare "caviar for the general" whereas common fare is hamburgers, flipping burgers, which is a real business, many more servings of hamburgers t…

There plenty of films made by very creative film makers that had plenty of artistic freedom, but still have muddy dialogue so I don’t see how any of that is relevant to the particular issue.

Re: Why do all these 20-somethings have closed captions turned on?

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Post by jessaustin »

stack_framer wrote: post #251

My kids watch everything with closed captioning on (ages 10 and 7)! I think now I know why, and it's my fault: I used to always tell them to turn the dang volume down. I guess then they couldn't hear the dialogue, so they figured out how to turn on closed captioning.

It's probably good that your 7yo is better at reading than many adults.

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Post by isleyaardvark »

crazygringo wrote: post #573
ryandrake wrote: post #136

One more vote for terrible audio mixes and one for actors who mumble their dialog. Whenever I watch movies with my wife, we constantly have to fiddle with the remote control. The loud parts (including explosions and music) are too loud for her, so we have to turn the volume down during those parts, but the dialog is too quiet and mumbly for me to hear, so we turn the volume up during those parts. We now just keep the…

I know I'm in the minority here, but let me explain why it's not terrible audio mixes or bad actors. The overall trend in TV and movies has been towards greater realism in all aspects. Less stage-audience sitcoms, more single-cam. Less "look at this actor" and more "look at this real person". Actors aren't mumbling, they're speaking how real people speak. Trust me, screen actors have more stage training than ever --…

I'm sorry but that is just not true. That kind of naturalistic acting has been the dominant trend in movies since Brando. TV may have been more stage like but definitely not movies.

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Post by ProjectArcturis »

ryandrake wrote: post #136

One more vote for terrible audio mixes and one for actors who mumble their dialog. Whenever I watch movies with my wife, we constantly have to fiddle with the remote control. The loud parts (including explosions and music) are too loud for her, so we have to turn the volume down during those parts, but the dialog is too quiet and mumbly for me to hear, so we turn the volume up during those parts. We now just keep the…

EXPLOSIONS and whispers

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Post by Philip-J-Fry »

rdtwo wrote: post #568
leeter wrote: post #554

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Theory: Because distribution companies for movies made having DTS/Dolby Atmos/Whatever mandatory in the theater, sound engineers primarily focus on that because that takes 99% of the time. Because theaters with just optical stereo (yes I'm aware most theaters use digital distribution and projectors now, that just hammers home the point) aren't really a thing any more they don't really bother optimizing it because "no…

Yeah but this is 2022 are there even movie theaters anymore? The box office sales are deep in the red and many theaters are going bankrupt. Most of What I watch are tv shows

People have been saying cinema is dying since Netflix took off. It's not true and still isn't true. Movies continue to set box office records.

Covid caused a lot of smaller cinemas and chains high in debt to shut. But a lot of them are still going.

Cinemas are pivoting more to the luxury experience rather than just being the place you watch new movies. So they will get bigger screens, better projectors, better audio, etc. It's already started near me.

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Post by hef19898 »

kgwgk wrote: post #609
hef19898 wrote: post #484

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The majority of Netflix series produced in Europe are actually a pleasant surprise in that regard. When to comes to writing and acting as well as production, and yes, sound mixing. I consider myself a fantasy and sci-fi nerd, binge read the Lord of The Rings, starting with the Hobbit, between Christmas Eve and when the first movie came out. Read the Simarilion. Loved the LotR triology. Like the Hobbit, ehich already…

> between Christmas Eve and when the first movie came out That potentially gives you _decades_ to binge-read the books... how many depends on what do you consider "the first movie". :-)

I shoupd have been more precise: I didn't read the books before, I knew they would be my Christmas gift. So I started with the Hobbit on, if memory serves well, on Dec. 23rd. Was finished in time for the unpacking of the triology on 24th. And was through, for go one, with all three books before going to see the first movie. I never read as many pages in as little time before or after. And I totally loved it!
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