Just a static image, no animals or anything to click on, tried on Chrome 83 (no add-ons) and FF 88 (uBlock, disabled).
Show HN: I may have created a new type of puzzle
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#172Having programming background, especially grinding the fizz buzz algos for fangs prep definitely helps with this puzzle.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't understand the conditions at first. I think it would be good to have visual feedback on what the issue is when trying to make a forbidden move, e.g. trying to move through "somebody at Carrot", the condition and the Carrot field should be highlighted together.
Having a knack for these, I found these "lack" of hints (understanding goal, covered tiles, no precondition failed) to be part of the game, and making deduction/memory work for it. There was just enough for me to understand it. Had these hints been there I'd have been bored rather quickly.
There are games where figuring out what to do is the goal, but this game has an good enough design that it really doesn’t have to be one of those. Many older games use that kind of obscure design as a crutch to appear more interesting and difficult than they really were.
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#174Fun implementation. It’s isomorphic to a wide range of problems that have been used for centuries that are all isomorphic to constrained state search. The fact that the graph is explicit here makes the problem way easier. (One you may be familiar with that seems very similar is the parking problem where by sliding around the cars they (un)block one another. None of this is to take away from the fun setting and implementation. Just that it’s not a new type of problem, although it seems to be a fun new instance of a common type of problem.
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#175(author here)
Great feedback! Yes, I am the "Land of Lisp" guy
Sorry about the potential epilepsy trigger- that was the fastest way I could think of to code a quick "reward effect", I will do something different in the next version. I didn't really expect anyone to care enough to solve the puzzle lol.
Now that I know people like the puzzle, I will build out the website and post regular puzzles, follow my Twitter @lisperati for updates.
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#176It took a while, but I got it! It's like the Wolf, goat and cabbage problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf,_goat_and_cabbage_problem
You mean the fox, chicken and grain problem? I wonder if this just gets localised to typical staple, typical predator and its prey? I guess cabbage and wolf is eastern Europe / Germany?
Ah yes, "the river crossing problem"!
Re: Show HN: I may have created a new type of puzzle
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having a knack for these, I found these "lack" of hints (understanding goal, covered tiles, no precondition failed) to be part of the game, and making deduction/memory work for it. There was just enough for me to understand it. Had these hints been there I'd have been bored rather quickly.
I agree. It's similar to how Doom was initially whereas now every game is filled with explanations.
That might be because most modern games are much more complicated than Doom. It’s also possible that modern game designers don’t want people to abandon the game before having a chance to really get what the core of it is about.
Don’t get me wrong, there is still a place for games with mystery and obscure mechanics etc, but it doesn’t make sense for most games to be like that. It’s just an unnecessary way to keep away players that would otherwise love the game.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Can you think of a way to re formulate the puzzle so that you can express the rules without words? I'm imagining Haskell with emojis now.
Why imagine it? It is already possible :P https://gist.github.com/Erk-/be3ef032d31734b6f835edd9a9685af...
And I thought I had a sick and twisted mind...
Re: Show HN: I may have created a new type of puzzle
#179Fun implementation. It’s isomorphic to a wide range of problems that have been used for centuries that are all isomorphic to constrained state search. The fact that the graph is explicit here makes the problem way easier. (One you may be familiar with that seems very similar is the parking problem where by sliding around the cars they (un)block one another. None of this is to take away from the fun setting and implem…
I would argue that the visual presentation and interface is a big part of what makes a puzzle, and changes how it is perceived, and therefore it is a new type of puzzle.
Re: Show HN: I may have created a new type of puzzle
#180Fun implementation. It’s isomorphic to a wide range of problems that have been used for centuries that are all isomorphic to constrained state search. The fact that the graph is explicit here makes the problem way easier. (One you may be familiar with that seems very similar is the parking problem where by sliding around the cars they (un)block one another. None of this is to take away from the fun setting and implem…
I would argue that the visual presentation and interface is a big part of what makes a puzzle, and changes how it is perceived, and therefore it is a new type of puzzle.
Fair enough. Depends how you arrange your ontology. But then anything is a new type of problem, so the claim becomes meaningless.