Earlier quoted context omitted.
apparently, because his GPA, he can't find any job and the only thing can d is waiting for starve and die.
What companies even care about gpa
The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
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Re: The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
#42"This student had lost four credits’ worth of tuition money, in return for nothing but a lower GPA" Haha, that's what it means when you fail these days. " lost " Wow
Re: The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
#43Perhaps a better discussion is how to teach calculus more effectively?
Re: The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
#44Very much yes. I am currently trying to tutor my daughter through college-level calculus. She wants to be a civil engineer. Civil engineers, obviously, need to know calculus. But calculus is not being taught to her by engineers. It is being taught by mathematicians. And as part of teaching it, they are attempting to instill a "mathematical mindset". Which means, in practice, that it is an entry to proofs. Every proof…
Most people don’t need weed out level college math. But on the whole, those that pass the bar are more intelligent than those that don’t.
Maybe more useful to just take IQ tests to prove credentials than jump through these kind of hoops?
Basically none of the “hard” stuff I learned in computer science is part of my career (3rd year physics, linear algebra, etc). But I got to jump those hoops!
Re: The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
#45Interesting article. I think it would be a nice experiment to run an introduction to proof course, including something like Martin Gardner's puzzles, to show how proof works, and the power of thinking carefully and building up arguments (and using some elementary arithmetic to help). I think that'd go a long way towards increasing mathematical thinking with minimal suffering, like memorization of integrals. It should…
I don't recall it being terribly popular, but it was good as I recall (and useful when I later added a math degree, I think I had a leg up on most of my math major peers because of it).
Re: The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
#46Very much yes. I am currently trying to tutor my daughter through college-level calculus. She wants to be a civil engineer. Civil engineers, obviously, need to know calculus. But calculus is not being taught to her by engineers. It is being taught by mathematicians. And as part of teaching it, they are attempting to instill a "mathematical mindset". Which means, in practice, that it is an entry to proofs. Every proof…
Not a good way of teaching a mathematical mindset... How are you supposed to know if your "trick" actually goes through? You'd probably need a full course in real analysis to actually learn the fundamentals.
Re: The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
#47Very much yes. I am currently trying to tutor my daughter through college-level calculus. She wants to be a civil engineer. Civil engineers, obviously, need to know calculus. But calculus is not being taught to her by engineers. It is being taught by mathematicians. And as part of teaching it, they are attempting to instill a "mathematical mindset". Which means, in practice, that it is an entry to proofs. Every proof…
My entire faith in academia was broken as a result.
Re: The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
#48Very much yes. I am currently trying to tutor my daughter through college-level calculus. She wants to be a civil engineer. Civil engineers, obviously, need to know calculus. But calculus is not being taught to her by engineers. It is being taught by mathematicians. And as part of teaching it, they are attempting to instill a "mathematical mindset". Which means, in practice, that it is an entry to proofs. Every proof…
It’s a very complicated IQ test. Most people don’t need weed out level college math. But on the whole, those that pass the bar are more intelligent than those that don’t. Maybe more useful to just take IQ tests to prove credentials than jump through these kind of hoops? Basically none of the “hard” stuff I learned in computer science is part of my career (3rd year physics, linear algebra, etc). But I got to jump thos…
Re: The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
#49Very much yes. I am currently trying to tutor my daughter through college-level calculus. She wants to be a civil engineer. Civil engineers, obviously, need to know calculus. But calculus is not being taught to her by engineers. It is being taught by mathematicians. And as part of teaching it, they are attempting to instill a "mathematical mindset". Which means, in practice, that it is an entry to proofs. Every proof…
It’s a very complicated IQ test. Most people don’t need weed out level college math. But on the whole, those that pass the bar are more intelligent than those that don’t. Maybe more useful to just take IQ tests to prove credentials than jump through these kind of hoops? Basically none of the “hard” stuff I learned in computer science is part of my career (3rd year physics, linear algebra, etc). But I got to jump thos…
Re: The case for ending calculus requirements for science majors
#50There is a case for different education perspectives for different majors (trying to teach in a more familiar way for people with different backgrounds).
But dropping it entirely? Why are you in that major to begin with? It's like going into compsci and not expecting math.