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Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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Re: Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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Facebook Marketplace has completely taken over in most parts of the US. It sucks.

Any idea about Boston? Boston Craigslist has seemed a bit stale, but I'm not on Facebook to see how that compares.

Photography and Musical Instruments, it still seems pretty active. Though FB Marketplace is unfortunately making inroads the past couple years.

Re: Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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People use (or at least used) Craigslist because they like it when websites and apps actually work. I never encountered bugs or bizarre UI problems when using Craigslist. It turns out the only people who care about flashy animations, fancy drop shadows, "native" looking UI elements, Material/Human design principles, etc., are developers and designers. Normal people only care about those things when functionality is solved first. If it functions like crap, but it looks good, you're just putting lipstick on a pig, and lipstick might not have even been called for in the first place.

Re: Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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Careful what you whish for. That sounds exactly as one of those fuzzy algorithms that will hide posts randomly due to stupid reasons. Eg. some address has a glitched road and Google Maps believes it is only reachable by boat or helicopter.

This is craigslist, not facebook: don't over-engineer what you don't need to over-engineer. You just look at already-made datasets that give the real world distance between two places, and remove search results based on that. Never, ever, use google maps for this, and definitely don't use it "per query, as needed". The overwhelming majority of infrastructure doesn't change on even a yearly basis: use someone else's p…

>already-made datasets that give the real world distance between two places

Can you point me to a source? Thanks.

Re: Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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A billion split ten ways is still a decent chunk of pocket change. Clearly there's money in Craigslist, regardless of how it has been apportioned.

has != earns Makes me wonder: if people were offered a lump sum up front which represented their lifetime take-home pay + fringe for the job they will do for the rest of their life, what would people's number be? Or another way, a choice of a 10 year contract to do X worth 100k/annual take-home with 1m delivered at start, or an unchanging biweekly paycheck. Would the biweekly need to be higher to make it more attract…

>has != earns

Yes, and?

>a choice of a 10 year contract to do X worth 100k/annual take-home with 1m delivered at start, or an unchanging biweekly paycheck. Would the biweekly need to be higher to make it more attractive than the one-time payment or could it be lower yet still be the favored choice.

You can only make the up front payment so large before employees start quitting early and moving to Montenegro.

Re: Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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I still use CL, after I try NextDoor (and less often, eBay).

Many of the scammers are pretty easy to spot: they say "my agent will pick it up and give you a cashier's check (or money order)." I think CL could easily make it harder for the scammers, with minimal effort.

For the ghosting buyers: this isn't just limited to CL. On the last item, I was giving something away on NextDoor, and still had around 8 ghosts. What I finally resorted to was asking for the exact time they were coming, and making it clear that I was not holding it for them if they didn't show up.

If there were several on the same day, I'd tell the later ones that someone was (supposedly) coming before them, and it might be gone so they should double check before coming.

Re: Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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* I far, far, far prefer Craigslist interface to anything else in that space. It's clear and focused Its search engine too - I get things I search for in the area I search for. For me, Kijiji and Facebook marketplace are awful UI, awful distractions, and give me 10,000 "suggested" or "fuzzy searched" things in random order, suppressing things I'm actually looking for. And I've completely given up on eBay over last de…

To me it seems like CL never cought on outside of the bigger cities in Canada, but Kijiji became very popular. But I agree, Kijiji is not as clean with the results as CL, and yes, Facebook Market Place is a mess. Varage Sale is a small player in certain regions of Canada.

Re: Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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> One thing I don’t get is why someone else would copy your listing? Do they somehow get a slice of the pie if a respondent rents? Usually this is a scam. You advertise someone else's vacant property, break in to conduct tenant tours, collect fees/deposits/first month's rent, then bail.

Well that’s just evil. I never gave that possibility a thought.

I tried to find a succinct name for this scheme but failed. I did find a blog where a retired attorney discusses this and some variations on it (and learned something new in the process: pulling this stunt on multiple prospective tenants at the same time makes this a hell of a lot more lucrative):

https://livingstingy.blogspot.com/2017/07/house-rental-scams...

Re: Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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Much like 25 years ago when I said to myself, "there's nothing on the internet that I need to see so badly that I'll install RealNetworks", I'll put stuff on the curb with a "free" sign before I'll reactivate my long-deactivated FB account (or buy new, depending on the direction of the transaction).

I was right there too but all the rental apartments are via FB marketplace now to the point I literally could not find a place without getting back on it (DC). Absolutely pain, I miss craigslist

Same here in the Roaring Fork Valley. Two months of Craigslist, apartments.com, bulletin boards, etc. Finally I posted a "Place Wanted" on some local Facebook groups and I got something pretty quick. Tons of scammers on Craigslist here.

Re: Why Craigslist still looks the same after 25 years

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Any idea about Boston? Boston Craigslist has seemed a bit stale, but I'm not on Facebook to see how that compares.

I've found it pretty rare to _not_ find something I'm looking for on Boston Craigslist. As something of an "out there" example, I found ten old tube TVs for my Halloween decorations just a few weeks ago. Also: I got an absolutely great deal on a car through Craigslist about five years ago. That said, I've definitely had less success on the sales side than I did in years prior, but I can't tell if that's what I'm sell…

Are the TVs going to be a functional part of the display or just decorative?

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A local media company runs a "classifieds" on their online site. It dominates locally. Craigslist has been worthless for ages here because of it. However, Facebook Marketplace seems to be slowly gaining traction. Which I hate for all the reasons you mention. I dread the day it takes over :(

In fairness, the only valid complaint I've heard about Craigslist is that it diverted classified ad revenue away from reporters, destroying local newspapers, and then local elections. With Craigslist, this always felt like an unintended consequence. With facebook, it seems like one of their top ten strategies for getting us to devolve into mineshaft dwelling mole people that live in the metaverse.

>elections

what?

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