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Ask HN: Have tech salaries been stagnant for the past decade?

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Re: Ask HN: Have tech salaries been stagnant for the past decade?

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>US tech salaries are good for only one reason, the largest tech companies went the path of public stock valuations and paid employees with stock. That's a reason for first-generation employees to get paid highly, not a reason to continue to pay that highly to new employees joining today. The real determinants of tech company salaries are the same old boring ones that govern salaries in most lightly regulated industr…

Can you please define the difference between average and marginal productivity?

Average productivity is exactly what it sounds like. If google is making one million dollars in a year and has 1000 employees their average productivity is $1000.

Marginal productivity is harder to pin down empirically, it's the first derivative of productivity with respect to inputs of labor. Not all labor is productive to the same degree, it was hired at different times, and there's variance in negotiation so your comp definitely doesn't (===) your marginal productivity. It's also probably greatly distorted for startups that are banking on a unicorn valuation where the expected productivity is something like (0.99 * 0 + 0.009 * 1 million + 0.0001 * 1 billion). But for Google et. al where they're in a relative steady state, they have a good idea of how much revenue grows when they add an employee and they'll be willing to pay up to that.

Re: Ask HN: Have tech salaries been stagnant for the past decade?

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If you only make 7x minimal wage after tax then you are severely underpaid. 10-12x is the standard now.

14k PLN netto = underpaid?

It at the low end of mid-level developer salary range. Some companies will pay close to that to a bright, promising Junior with 2 years of experience.

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How can I learn this? It's a dream job for me. I tinker with bikes endlessly and I've lost all my hair in tech.

I was first inspired by this video that a friend of a friend made for a boutique frame builder in California. http://soulcraftbikes.com A decade later I sold a company and spent 3 months in Portland at https://bikeschool.com/ . I took pretty much all of their classes. (Their wheel building seminar was fantastic, btw). Sadly they no longer teach welding, but the classes were fantastic. In each class you sized, laid ou…

I'm replying late but thanks for answering, this is some really cool info.

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I have never paid attention to shares or vesting schedules in contracts. I would stay until I had made the improvements I sought out to make and was bored. I would leave with whatever has vested at that point. I do not acknowledge golden handcuffs ever. Leave when you do not enjoy the job anymore, or are not bringing maximal value you know you could elsewhere. Startup stocks are ephemeral lottery tickets unlikely to…

Question for you, have you always moved directly from one job to the next? I'm contemplating leaving my current role and taking a couple months off before the job search, and while I'm not worried about landing a new job, I am concerned that being unemployed may result in lower offers.

Late, but my understanding is that in the non-FAANG world this is extremely true. If you are currently employed you are desirable and they have to lure you away. If not, you are some desperate loser who got fired god-knows-why in the recruiter's eyes.

This may be mitigated at FAANG because they vet heavily on leetcode grind.

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> it's quite grim to live in Western Europe on regular dev salary No it's not. We still earn above average and (very) generally life in Europe are not grim.

How many properties do you own? Few people i know in east europe own at least a second home. One owns four flats and land. Do you own at least the home you live in or is it bank owned? Not being rude, just asking if the above average salary actually brings above average living, and not just a new iphone and macbook pro every 5-6 years. Does it allow for one to grow into more than just a wage earner?

i totally agree with you and I didn't mean to sound like I was disrespecting eastern europe. If I was in my early 20s Id definitly consider moving to eastern europe and its a part of the world I enjoy personally travelling there for the culture and the nice cities.
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