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US border forces are seizing Americans' phone data and storing it for 15 years
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#142Re: US border forces are seizing Americans' phone data and storing it for 15 years
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What are you gonna do? Throw you new iphone in the bin?
Buy a 2nd-hand $40 scrap phone, erase it, save a few panorama pictures and a couple of selfies on it and put your SIM card in it every time you are about to cross a border. Then put the card back in your regular phone after that.
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Fortunately we still vote for our representatives. But I'm sure the US Federal government is interested in your veiled calls for violence.
Enjoy it while you can, Moore v. Harper is up for debate in the Supreme Court this year, and it appears to be in favor of this (insane) idea that voting is no longer a right.
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> The ACLU is wrong. The border does it all the time. Here is the one that sticks out in my mind as the most popular case: The ACLU is not wrong, if you actually read their actual words. Your case doesn't say what you think it does. From your own article: > Bikkannavar insisted that he wasn’t allowed to do that because the phone belonged to NASA’s JPL and he’s required to protect access. Agents insisted and he finall…
>Right, same as a police officer who asks if they can "look around" or "ask a few questions". ...But in general you'd be a fool to do so, and you also may say "no" This is not only a very naive take, its a dangerous one - people have been killed by law enforcement for doing what you are suggesting. Law Enforcement Officers in the US has what is known as qualified immunity. In practice qualified immunity means as long…
Can you cite any examples of this happening? I’m a pretty big policing reform person and follow this stuff closely and can’t think of a single case like this.
Re: US border forces are seizing Americans' phone data and storing it for 15 years
#146Seems like real solution are phones that by default provided end-to-end-encryption for cloud backups, no local data “travel modes”, secure wipes, multiple logins, etc. — since trying to get countries to uniformly play by same rules seem highly unlikely.
No because if it's standard, they will ask you to disable travel mode and download all the data. You can say no, but you can't refuse and cross the border. It's not a technical problem.
[0] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/border-patrol-says-it-s...
Re: US border forces are seizing Americans' phone data and storing it for 15 years
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are you gonna do? Throw you new iphone in the bin?
Buy a 2nd-hand $40 scrap phone, erase it, save a few panorama pictures and a couple of selfies on it and put your SIM card in it every time you are about to cross a border. Then put the card back in your regular phone after that.
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#148The real question is, can you put something on your phone that will root their workstation & plant a worm on it?
Re: US border forces are seizing Americans' phone data and storing it for 15 years
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are you gonna do? Throw you new iphone in the bin?
Buy a 2nd-hand $40 scrap phone, erase it, save a few panorama pictures and a couple of selfies on it and put your SIM card in it every time you are about to cross a border. Then put the card back in your regular phone after that.
Ultimately the underlying privacy violation is what needs to change here cause all work arounds are problematic in some way
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#150"That's when they can plug in the traveler's phone, tablet or PC to a device that copies their information, ...". would really like to know which "devices" they are talking about. fkn hard to do a full android backup these days.. this world. im tellin ya. on another note: lets talk about how one would go about keeping ones privacy intact aka having a party in the capitol. 1. will they be able to get into my cryptroot…
They will get a $5 wrench and beat you until you give it up yourself, per XKCD https://xkcd.com/538/ In other words: this isn't a technical challenge, either you comply and give them your private stuff, or you're not going anywhere. Maybe you can con them into giving a 'public' part of the phone and pretending that's all there is, but again, that's social engineering and not a technical challenge.
We are simply not allowed to have privacy and also live a meaningful life. Everything we want to do now requires us to surrender our privacy. Transact with money, see a medical professional, travel internationally, etc.