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CPSC warns consumers to stop using male-to-male extension cords sold on Amazon

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Re: CPSC warns consumers to stop using male-to-male extension cords sold on Amazon

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I recall a holocaust among hand crafted toys, a few years ago: They were enforcing "materiel origin" labeling or something and you couldn't sell home made toys without a lot of paperwork to certify they were lead free. Amazon is too big for laws to apply, and its umbrella apparently covers foreign sellers on its platform. Another fun toy they sell is the "heated shower heads", a tankless water heater element integrat…

There's a terrifying teardown of one of those heated shower heads here:

https://hackaday.com/2018/08/25/electric-shower-head-tear-do...

When he opens it, the ground wire is just floating in the enclosure, not hooked up to anything. Contacts that would mechanically fail to shorted, etc.

He also mentions it flows ~24 amps of 220V on the high setting.

Re: CPSC warns consumers to stop using male-to-male extension cords sold on Amazon

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post #9

I recall a holocaust among hand crafted toys, a few years ago: They were enforcing "materiel origin" labeling or something and you couldn't sell home made toys without a lot of paperwork to certify they were lead free. Amazon is too big for laws to apply, and its umbrella apparently covers foreign sellers on its platform. Another fun toy they sell is the "heated shower heads", a tankless water heater element integrat…

Are you sure that Lowes can't sell heated shower heads? Maybe they choose not to sell them for liability reasons.

Or demand reasons. If Amazon only sells a couple dozen a year, they just need to keep a few in a single warehouse at all times whereas lowes would need to keep it in stock in a minimum number of stores that is greater than 1.

Re: CPSC warns consumers to stop using male-to-male extension cords sold on Amazon

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post #8

Back feeding seems insane. Most residential circuits are rated for 15A. A 5000 watt generator can produce over 40 amps at 120V. Seems like a good way to start an electrical fire.

Yep. There are some edge cases where it is convenient (eg trip all circuits except lighting) to ensure load is safe but kinda dicey that make random consumers understand and implement that

Re: CPSC warns consumers to stop using male-to-male extension cords sold on Amazon

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What other use is there for male-to-male cables?

The classic "I started with the wrong end when I put up the Christmas lights"?

Then re-string them, and remove all temptation.

Re: CPSC warns consumers to stop using male-to-male extension cords sold on Amazon

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post #8

Back feeding seems insane. Most residential circuits are rated for 15A. A 5000 watt generator can produce over 40 amps at 120V. Seems like a good way to start an electrical fire.

Residential circuits are also protected by 15A breakers. You could generate a lot more than 40 amps of draw by shorting a (traditionally) energized circuit.

Re: CPSC warns consumers to stop using male-to-male extension cords sold on Amazon

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post #14

I recall a holocaust among hand crafted toys, a few years ago: They were enforcing "materiel origin" labeling or something and you couldn't sell home made toys without a lot of paperwork to certify they were lead free. Amazon is too big for laws to apply, and its umbrella apparently covers foreign sellers on its platform. Another fun toy they sell is the "heated shower heads", a tankless water heater element integrat…

There's a terrifying teardown of one of those heated shower heads here: https://hackaday.com/2018/08/25/electric-shower-head-tear-do... When he opens it, the ground wire is just floating in the enclosure, not hooked up to anything. Contacts that would mechanically fail to shorted, etc. He also mentions it flows ~24 amps of 220V on the high setting.

> The green wire which is a neutral has no place to fasten inside the plastic body. It just goes inside, connects to nothing, while being exposed in the path of the water, presumably to keep water that was too conductive from shocking you

I have nothing to say to this. Wow.

Re: CPSC warns consumers to stop using male-to-male extension cords sold on Amazon

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What other use is there for male-to-male cables?

NEMA power inlets are weirdly expensive and therefore hard to come by. So if you want to have a wall-powered device with a detachable cord, using an outlet as an inlet and a male-to-male cord is a simple solution.

(And yes, I'm aware of other solutions, like using IEC inlets, but it just feels a little wrong to use one of those on e.g. a power strip with NEMA outlets.)

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