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Facebook bans Holocaust film for violating race policy

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Re: Facebook bans Holocaust film for violating race policy

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Post by Intermernet »

Trifectaffe6 wrote: post #47
Intermernet wrote: post #39

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Debate is literally appealing to in-group/out-group bias. The purpose of debate is to try to influence that bias. The weird thing about debate is that the most ridiculous claims have the most evidence against them, and are therefore the most work to refute with sources. Claiming that the earth is flat takes a lot more evidence to refute than claiming that the earth has slightly incorrect parameters of oblate spheroid…

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Re: Facebook bans Holocaust film for violating race policy

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Post by prvc »

edwnj wrote: post #43

I've been working with Alex for just over a year now. He’s never political, super nice guy, focused on creating beautiful art. This is a major blow to the team. If your not backed by Sony or Paramount, ads (especially in the first week) can be the deciding factor in whether you make it or not.. When he told me what happened, I refused to believe him "There is no way they banned you over blue eyes". Unlike Alex, I'm e…

> If your not backed by Sony or Paramount, ads (especially in the first week) can be the deciding factor in whether you make it or not..

Do you seriously believe it was Facebook that caused the film to fail?

Re: Facebook bans Holocaust film for violating race policy

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Post by inglor_cz »

throwawayhl wrote: post #26
thebooktocome wrote: post #21

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Whether or not OP is serious, people holding opinions like this (e.g., it’s possible to be racist against Nazis, who incidentally are not a race but rather a political affiliation) certainly exist. It’s a sad state of affairs.

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I think the main reason for the discrepancy is that Nazis were active in Europe, which was culturally much closer to the US than East Asia.

For example, we have a lot more literature about the Holocaust than about Japanese atrocities in the Far East. One of the reasons is that the European population of the 1940s had much higher literacy levels and so there were enough people to actually write their experience down.

But it is also way easier to translate from, say, German or Dutch into English, than to do the same for Tagalog or Burmese.

Re: Facebook bans Holocaust film for violating race policy

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Post by marginalia_nu »

WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #46
petre wrote: post #22

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By the same twisted logic, the Beat Generation instills people to violence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_Generation

What about the Beatles?!

Beat less? Seems to promote peace.

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Post by sgjohnson »

kelnos wrote: post #32
wodenokoto wrote: post #7

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It probably is, but not all jurisdictions have a small claims court and even those that do, it can be quite cumbersome compared to the lost money

And if you do it, Facebook will probably retaliate by permanently closing your account.

I'd really like to see this. And after that I'd like to see a jury hit Facebook with 12 figures in punitive damages in a class action case.

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Post by ticviking »

actionfromafar wrote: post #8
thriftwy wrote: post #5

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How come they get to keep money for the service not provided? Should be strictly illegal.

You can probably go to arbitration, which you agreed to. This is what companies often require in their terms of service. It's going to be costly for one of the parties.

I really wish more of us used that system. The laws involved aren’t perfect but they’re better than trying to get a response from their non-existent customer support systems.

I believe that in many states the company that demanded arbitration has to bear the costs also.

Re: Facebook bans Holocaust film for violating race policy

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Post by blueflow »

hfbff wrote: post #50

"This is the action of haters – and there are sadly many in our society – who seek to damage the film in order to trivialize the Holocaust" Newton told Rolling Stone at the Toronto Film Festival. There are a lot of stupid things Facebook is doing, but why, of all things, would you accuse them of trivializing the Holocaust? If anything, this kind of accusations (using the Holocaust as a defense for everything) trivial…

Thats the current zeitgeist. Making extreme accusations, devaluing them and training people to not believe them per default.

The chaotic evil in me loves this because it opens up many ways to get away with bad takes.

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Post by Timshel »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #49
Timshel wrote: post #40

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Not the best place to play with semantic. There is a reason there is deep animosity between japan/china and japan/korea. Just over 37-45 estimated war crimes resulted in 3 to 30 millions death ...

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? You do not end up killing millions of peoples without systemic targetting and industrialized organisation. The fact that it might be called genocide or democide or something else is semantic ...

Anyway my point (albeit unclear) was more that you are arguing the premise of the parent post : "Germany and Japan committed roughly equivalent atrocities" which I believe is quite difficult and in a way reinforce the parent since he appears to believe there is a systemic diabolisation of the Nazi as way to target by proxy the white (anyway that's how I interpret: "great punching bags by proxy for what the what the author really wants to say")

Instead of arguing his association : "you'd expect that there would be a roughly equivalent denunciation in our literature." which I believe is way easier to refute and in the specific case of this movie the choice of the nazi might be easier to explain with the director parent history and not an hidden agenda.

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