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YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by goodSteveramos »

jsnell wrote: post #69
sul_tasto wrote: post #57

If google would agree to stop tracking me and selling my data, I would be willing to stop blocking ads. As it is, I don’t see why I should pay twice.

They already don't sell your data. The other economic value that "tracking" data could have is to show you better targeted ads. But when you block the ads, that potential value is irrelevant. So you're choosing to not pay at all, "paying twice" has nothing to do with it. Not that there is anything wrong with that. You have the opportunity to take something for nothing, and seized it. But at least be honest about your…

Mosquitos dont sell your blood

Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by Gigachad »

dom96 wrote: post #66
kelnos wrote: post #9

Then pay for YT Premium so you don't have ads. Look, I hate ads. I really do. You can pry uBlock Origin from my cold, dead fingers. But the thing is, sites and creators and whatnot still often choose ads as a way to fund the things they create. If they're pushing ads at you over a medium where you have control (there's a reason why a web browser is a "user agent"), then I think you totally have the right to choose wh…

The problem is that YouTube is ramping up the number of ads. So what changed? Many creators have been getting plenty rich from the relatively fewer ads that have been shown over the years (which I've been quite happy with). If they are showing more ads for the creators sake then fine, but I am skeptical that is the case.

In general a lot of products have not been pulling their weight and have been subsidised by other products. YouTubers have not been able to make a living off video ads for a while so they do in video promotions, external fund raising, getting paid to promote crypto scams, etc.

YouTube may want to fix things so content creators can just put out good content and get paid properly through the platform.

Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by slenk »

throwoutway wrote: post #91
rtpg wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re “sure”? I mean it’s kinda the whole point of the product, and from what has been said in trade articles the revenue from premium is much higher than the ad revenue it’s replacing. People of course do stupid things, but the information I saw made it sound like there’s no question, premium is better for Youtube

Netflix charges. For a long time they said no to ads. For a long time they said they won’t do ads. Then the profits started tipping down. Wall Street frowned. Now ads are coming to Netflix, which you will still pay for. What do you think Google will do, when they do freely abandon services, jack up GCP prices, and set 10 ads on the unpaid tier?

Streaming services ruined it. Next Netflix jump and its full back to a pirates life for me

Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by alxmrs »

tristor wrote: post #52

There's a lot of people here who act like the only ones annoyed by this are people who refuse to pay for YouTube premium. But here's the thing... /I/ do pay for YouTube premium, and I still find this annoying. Here's why: I'm not always logged into my personal Google account on a device, and I don't necessarily want to log in on some devices to my personal Google account, but I still need or want to use YouTube. YouT…

In cases like these, I use multiple personas in Chrome (I think Firefox has user profiles) so I can log into my personal accounts on my work computer while still keeping everything compartmentalized.

Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by lokedhs »

watashiato wrote: post #56
probably_wrong wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure there are ads you've seen on YouTube, they just look slightly different to what you have in mind. But first, this comment wouldn't be possible without Deutsche Bahn, the n°1 train provider in Germany. If you go to their website right now with promo code "probably_wrong" you get extra delay on your next trip. If you're going to be late, be late with Deutsche Bahn. Remember: promo code, free delay. Now, back t…

The answer to this is sponsorblock, which has reached a state where it takes mere minutes, sometimes seconds, for someone to mark the relevant segments in a new video. And it's not just sponsor reads, you can let it skip intros, unrelated tangents, etc.

The best feature of sponsorblock is the "skip to highlight" feature, which skips to the part of the video you actually want to see.

Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by david38 »

kelnos wrote: post #9

Then pay for YT Premium so you don't have ads. Look, I hate ads. I really do. You can pry uBlock Origin from my cold, dead fingers. But the thing is, sites and creators and whatnot still often choose ads as a way to fund the things they create. If they're pushing ads at you over a medium where you have control (there's a reason why a web browser is a "user agent"), then I think you totally have the right to choose wh…

I have YT premium. It only stops the ads in the beginning. It does nothing for the in-show ads - the sponsored stuff. I wish that was required to be flagged and skipped as well.

Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by brokenmachine »

space_fountain wrote: post #67
db48x wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh. Most videos on the web are crap. Having advertising makes some kinds of crap worse. And even if all advertising revenue went away, enthusiasts will always post videos for fun. In fact most videos don’t earn any significant advertising revenue. Personally advertising is a high cost to myself that I am not willing to pay. I even avoid restaurants that have televisions, or that play a radio station instead of buyin…

The videos that don’t make money are the unpopular ones. Are they the ones you watch? Have you listened to the content creators you do consume and what they have to say about doing it for the joy of it all

I've often enjoyed videos that are unpopular. I don't really care.

Either I watch or I don't watch, but I won't watch ads.

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Post by brokenmachine »

Aachen wrote: post #39
christophilus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m in the same boat. I watch YouTube via Brave or uBlock + Firefox. If YouTube spun out of Google, I’d pay for premium. I get a lot of value out of it. I just can’t bring myself to pay Google for anything. I know it’s not really rational, and in a way, ad-blockers feel a little like piracy. But it’s where I am.

100%. I have a hard time explaining even to myself what makes it feel so wrong to pay google for their monopoly, it's a good product after all and usually that means I feel obliged to make money roll. On pc I indeed also use the ad blocker, but on tv that doesn't work. (I also tried pi hole)

For me it's the lack of customer service.

Even paying customers get zero support. I'm not encouraging that.

Re: YouTube ads appear to be ramping up, with as many as 10 unskippable ads

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Post by brokenmachine »

pram wrote: post #53
goalieca wrote: post #11

What bothers me is that YouTube kids is now showing ads.

Yes I ended up paying for a YouTube sub because of my kids. I just use the app built into my LG tv and it doesn’t have an ad blocker. It’s pretty much a necessity if you’re playing one of those 60 minute loops of peppa pig or whatever.

Rootmytv - Homebrew Channel - Youtube Adfree.

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Post by Scottn1 »

nostromo wrote: post #21

If you want to watch YouTube without ads on your phone, go to the website using the Brave browser -- it works perfectly.

Orion Browser on iOS as well blocks YT ads for me.

The problem though with ad-tech is while browsers/uBO may work currently, it is a cat/mouse game and the big boys will win with their huge budgets and genius developers. Niche browsers like Brave/Orion and uBO extension are already probably getting to the point of being overwhelmed by constant breakage of YT/Twitch/Etc ad blocking.

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